| > I don't see any searchable thread. I see you criticizing
| > someone but have no idea what came before. You should
| > get a real newsgroup reader and stop using Google Groups.
| > Then you won't be posting ghost messages that don't make
| > sense to anyone else. Newsgroups happen in real time,
| > not 6 years ago.
| I arrived here via a simple search for information on polyshades use on
floors, does that make it a searchable thread?
It's hard to explain if you don't know the difference
between Usenet and the Internet. Usenet is a series
of text-based chat groups that are hosted on numerous
servers. It's similar to group email, and it happens in real
time, like email. It has nothing to do with the http protocol
that browsers use to show webpages.
Usenet posts show up in the group and one can
subscribe to any number of groups. Once you subscribe
you can see the latest posts in a "treeview" format,
showing the course of the discussion, and you can join in.
What Google has done has been to collect past Usenet
posts and show them in webpages. In many cases those
posts are years old. That would be OK for informational
purposes, but Google is also allowing people to post to
the groups from those webpages, bypassing Usenet. Those
people usually don't understand what Google is doing and
think they're joining an active discussion.
The result is that Google Groups posters are usually
posting into empty space, while here on Usenet we
see nonsense posts that don't seem to relate to anything.
It's a bit like answering want-ads from a newspaper
that's 10 years old. If you reach anyone at all they'll
probably be confused about why you're calling. It misses
the basic concept of how Usenet works. Since the original
post is years old, no one in the newsgroup sees it, because
the newsgroup is in real time. Posts that old are long gone.
And no one in the newsgroup sees the responses to that
original post. They're also long gone. That's what I meant
in saying it's not a searchable thread. For those of us on
Usenet the first post in the thread is the one starting with
"your snark is misplaced". There's no indication of what the
foregoing posts might have said, so the post from juliatn has
no context. she might have found the discussion by
searching Google, but she's not taking part in the
discussion as she thinks she is.
If you want to read and post to newsgroups you
really should get a proper newsreader and subscribe
to the groups. Then you can take part in the discussions
as they're happening. If you post to ancient threads
that Google Groups has archived it *could*
benefit someone, at some point, who's searching the
Web, but the value of a discussion is lost because the
posters are usually long gone. And meanwhile you're
leaving rubbish posts in the actual Usenet newsgroup
that have no context and therefore make no sense to
readers in the group.
Here's a basic explanation of Usenet:
There are numerous newsgroup readers available.
If you're used to using freebie webmail through Google
then you may not be familiar with email programs,
like Thunderbird. (Real email, like newsgroups, is
a completely separate communication protocol from
webpages and webmail. Webpages are http. Usenet is
nntp. Email is smtp. Each involves different communication
protocols with different strengths and weaknesses, designed
to be used by specific software. Just as webmail is limited
in comparison with real email, Google Groups webpage format
is limited in comparison to actual newsgroups.)
However you get your email, you can still install Thunderbird,
Forte Agent, MesNews, or any of several other programs
to read newsgroups. You can then subscribe to groups
through your ISP. If your ISP doesn't have newsgroups
service you can get free service here: