OH is still wanting to fit patio doors ( 8ft ones).
I would like those from a fitting firm.
Is OH right in saying that all the windows regardless of where they come
from ( firm or Wicks or Screwfix etc) are exactly the same? I can see that
Wicks and Screwfix are the same but what about fitting companies, do they
use Wicks Patio doors too?
( I have a quote just less than 2K for a patio window and a French Door.
Wicks would cost about half that if OH fitted but given reviews I am rather
concerned, especially since he has not done it before).
Well yes and no...
There are apparently only around five large makers of the plastic
extrusions that the various companies then turn into windows and doors.
So you usually get some variation based on a standardised set of
components. Needless to say the quality of assembly can vary a bit, and
the fitting (i.e. the metal bits) quality may vary.
Reviews of the windows, Thanks. Most suggest quality and fitting
instructions poor but given cost are " value for money"
I have my onw reviews on OH. he is likely to do it but never finihs off - he
always does that. Bathroom is loely but still needs the replacing of a pice
Door likely to be same. He will fit them ( after three days of gaping holes)
but he is unlikely to repair any damage to brickwork/ plaster etc that will
break off as old one comes out ( it is burried in the wall by about 3/4 of
an inch either side)
I have Screwfix sliding patio doors self installed. Must be well over 10
years old and are fine. I was lucky that a stock size suited me.
I'd say fitting them is really only for a pretty experienced DIYer. Lots
of different skills needed to make a good job.
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Dave Plowman firstname.lastname@example.org London SW
No. Wickes, Screwfix, and all the installers use windows made from
same set of profiles, made by a small number of companies (Eurocell
is one such). I went to look around the factory where mine were made
in 2002, which was on a local industrial estate. All the cutting
drilling and welding was completely computer controlled. I imagine
all such factories up and down the country churn out pretty similar
products. There's some scope for variation on quality of locks,
Don't know if patio doors are quite so identically manufacturered.
If you buy a ready-made one, it has to fit the opening (or you have
to create an opening to fit it). If you go to a fabricator, they will
make up any size - they have no concept of standard sizes.
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First of all, stay away from national companies like SafeStyleUK - lots of
horror stories can easily be found by googling. Two personal friends of mine
used to fit double glazing/patio doors although they've now retired, but
that's what you want to look for - a small company local to you who come
recommended by someone. Or if you find a small company, ask them to put you
in touch with previous customers so that you can see how satisfied they are
with the job.
My mates used to deal with a company called Profile22
http://profile22.co.uk/homeowner/ They don't deal directly with the public
but you can find out which DG companies they supply in your area and go from
Most small companies don't make the frames themselves but use a local
manufacturer. Find the manufacturer and have them make for you, to your
exact size. Getting a good fit is pretty straight forward as long as you use
all the plastic trim pieces the so called experts use.
I fitted one large window this way myself and the local manufacturer let me
take a selection of trim and wedges on a sale or return basis. Not Patio
doors but probably just as wide, and it took me one day to cut out the old
and fit the new with a bit of help from STWNFI to position the frame.
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