The new Government has asked for suggestions as to which laws it
should repeal so as to clear up the previous Govt's love of law-
How about Part-P?
How about lost of people suggesting Part-P?
It came out of a piece of misguided law-making, driven by a particular
MP's relation having been killed by electric shock arising from a
But as we all no, the regs. won't stop the cowboys but will give grief
to competent DiY ers.
Too true. Anyone else see 'Craig' on Rogue Traders last night. Absolutely
unbelievable. He tried to install an exterior 'porch' light by changing an
existing interior light switch into a double, and simply connecting the new
light into the new switch (no extension of lighting ring to power it). And
he twinned a kitchen socket, leaving the earth disconnected - didn't have
any proper test gear, so 'tested' it by plugging in a metal kettle and
checking that it worked.
Loved it when Matt greeted him with the hand buzzer! :)
I may be dropping myself in it, but what's wrong with wiring the porch
light into the house lighting circuit ? I did that exact same thing in
my last house.
(I know ideally it should be on its own circuit so some person
shorting out the outside light cannot affect interior lighting, and it
should have independent RCD protection.) Also, lighting doesn't use a
ring, its usually radial. You don't have to use loop-in, nothing wrong
with wiring a single light direct from the switch.
The point was that all he effectively had in the circuit was the switch (the
extra pole - not the pole replacing existing interior switch) and the light.
No connection to the mains via a ring or radial (and yes, you're totally
correct - lighting is radial - just a slip of the fingers there!)
Ah. I see.
I couldn't figure out the problem.
Yaesr ago som,e bloke I worked with asked me to look at his cortina
Battery kep t going flat 'ever since I fitted the new horn'
Well I looked, and the had the horn push in series with a relay going to
the horn. The relay coil was wired across the unswitched battery, so it
was always on..draining e battery.
He hadn't a clue "I just swapped wires till it worked"
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Doctor Drivel"
And with that one post... that single line... that brief sentence, you
utterly discredit yourself. Not that you had any to start with.
For what exactly?
It has failed to achieve its stated purpose - in fact fatalities have
risen since its introduction (as predicted by many of us here).
Its failed in it real but unstated purpose (to make a section of the
black economy traceable).
Its put a responsibility onto LA BC departments that they don't want,
and are ill equipped to support.
Its wasted loads of money for householders, and increased paper work at
many stages of running a project or selling a house.
Most consumers have never heard of it.
Most cowboys have not heard of it or ignore it.
Those that don't ignore it frequently do backhander cash deals to get
the paperwork sorted (even if not the job)
Most DIYers have never heard of it and ignore it, and of those DIYers
who have heard of it, I have never met one who has taken any notice of
it (unless its part of a larger job)
All in all its hard to think of a more pointless exercise.
Indeed, although I have never understood why, since old colours were
still allowable after part P and new colours were allowable before it!
Hence the colours don't make any definitive statement about when a job
Quite - although the year of manufacture now marked on the sheath of
most T&E might give you away.
And will the easements that might be coming with Amendment 1 to the 17th
ed. create a market in future-dated cable :-)
Very nice. Went to a Police Station where they didn't have armoured glass
and the bloke was helpful. Passed a copper smiling in the street (and he
hadn't just done someone). Flowers everywhere.
Managers, politicians and environmentalists: Nature's carbon buffer.
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