Those in Sheffield without any gas

[ARW]

that are complaining. They ought to stop whinging as they are giving South Yorkshire a bad name.

They still have electricity and running water.

How many millions of Ukrainians have neither ATM.

How many thousands in the UK cannot afford to put on their gas CH.

A week without no electricity or gas was called a Scout Camp when I was younger.

It still is if you do Freezer camp at Hesley Wood and you have to pay for your kids to be cold.

And it's due to snow in the SE tommorow. So that will make national news.

[charles]

From TW3: "The whole of Britain was affected by blizzards today - here is a picture of the snow outside the newsroom window." That was 60 years ago - nothing changes.

[SteveW]

A couple of days ago reports said that many were without electricity as well and qwere complaining that the utility companies provided electric heater that they were unable to use.

No heat, no light, no cooking, no hot water - it's a bit much when you are living in an "advanced" country that is not at war.

[Cursitor Doom]

There are loads of parents complaining about swimming pools not having the money to pay for heating the water. I don't recall any heated pools when I was a child. I was a keen swimmer and it never did me any harm, the whining bastards.

[ARW]

There were no reports on Radio Sheffield of powercuts.

[SteveW]

I can't remember which newspaper website it was on, but they were definitely complaining about being given electric heaters that they could not use.

[RJH]

I was out around Stocksbridge yesterday and the council was going door to door, checking people were OK, and that their gas was back on. The 4 or 5 I happened to see were reconnected, and certainly not moaning.

[ARW]

Given that those that are complaining often have two mouths and no ears.

They have said that they have been told to only use the electric heaters at set times.

[Andrew]

And quite likely several tw*tter accounts too

<Mike Gibbs says he's been using a weighted blanket to stay warm, but described his home as an "ice box">

Perhaps he should brush up on physics or David Attenborough programs. If you want to retain body heat then you need effective insulation, like Polar bears and Scottish Coos have. A heavy blanket does not mean a well-insulating blanket.

And how does water from a burst main 'leak into a gas main' unless the latter was broken at the same time as the water main and the gas pressure is less then the hydraulic pressure of the water. This doesn't make sense. When a similar incident knocked out the gas supply to much of West Sussex in 1985? it was because a mole plough managed to go straight through a large water main and also the parallel medium pressure gas main.

[The Natural Philosopher]

"Your Children wont know what Snow is" (some climb-it alarmist)

[The Natural Philosopher]

Not at all. When the EU decrees that companies must be paid to install heat pumps, windmills and solar panels, instead of generating reliable electricity, and delivering reliable heat via gas, what do you expect?

We wont really have Brexit until the Climate Change Act is junked.

Despite the furore from every green cominng out from under its bridge and saying 'we need more renewable energy' and that wanker Sunak U turning on fracking.

[Roland Perry]

In message <tn1lee$1ql7$ [e-mail]>, at 10:01:50 on Sat, 10 Dec

2022, Andrew [e-mail] remarked:

It's all a bit shrouded in mystery, but I don't think the gas pressure in the affected pipes is especially high, because it's going straight into people's homes. The TV report yesterday said that Cadent were going house-to-house emptying the water out of presumably the pipes downstream of people's meters.

The bloke from the water company appeared completely clueless and a week after the incident still couldn't say what had caused the water main (perhaps a long distance one and not that feeding individual houses, because the homes have running water) to "burst".

The only mechanism I can think of is perhaps the local gas distribution pipes have some emergency pressure relief valves and water got in through those.

[alan_m]

Recently on local social media many people, including myself, were remembering the Southend on Sea schools policy of when the weather started getting cold pupils from local schools were bussed down for swimming lessons to the Westcliff open air unheated swimming pool filled with sea water. You had no option about going in!

Some people remember the pool with fondness but they used it mid Summer. Anyone who was forced to use it for school swimming lessons had different views.

The pool is still there - but now without water being the basement area of a Casino.

This was the same pool where it was claimed that Ian Dury contacted Polio in 1949.

For those fond of cold swimming I believe that the RNLI are organising a Boxing Day swim in the sea around my way.

[alan_m]

Council of gas supplier? I believe the supplier (Centrica) has a legal duty to do so after a gas outage. There are still boilers around with pilot lights and gas appliances with missing flame protection.

[alan_m]

Council or gas supplier?

[ARW]

Or coal, 8 track players, leaded petrol and a f****ng good hiding.

[Adrian]

Apparently some already don't know what coal is. Some heritage railways have had visiting children puzzled about the black rocks that are being used on the steam engines, they hadn't come across it before.

Adrian

[ARW]

I have worked in houses (3 bedroom) with no CH and stopped in them overnight when working away.

You can usually keep it warm enough with two 2kW heaters - one upstairs and one downstairs and keeping the doors open to all rooms.

[AnthonyL]

Some people are ungrateful. I learnt to write my name in window frost:

[AnthonyL]

I went through 7 years of grammar school with cold showers after the two PE, one games and any other physical activity.

I blame any lack of size on the long term effects of those years!