Smart Meters

Oh? You forgotten about this already?

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There's nobody greedier than socialists.

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harry
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So - were you playing 2-up on Thursday?

Andy

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Andy Champ

No, the point you need to understand is that Wilson was a traitor to the Labour Party and an agent of the monetarists, and he started trying to weaken the trade unions. Hence all the strikes. Now falsely remembered as due to the strength of the unions, but really because of the attacks on working class living standards. A Tory figurehead had to be brought in to change trade union law, but only to continue the attacks Wislon and Callaghan started. And to bribe sections of the middle classes to support the plan. So it makes sense that Wilson started withdrawing milk from secondary schools, as long as you realise he was an early proto-Thatcher.

Why do you think the press spent so much energy convincing the mugs they shouldn't vote for Foot or Kinnock? Probably because they couldn't be sure to be able to bribe them to follow the monetarist agenda. Who remembers now that the only solid thing the Sun could pin on Foot was that he wore an insufficiently conservative coat to the Cenotaph, but this was enough to get all the sheep to vote for the slaugherer!

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Percy Picacity

Ignoring the fact that the Treasury forced the Education Department to cut the supply of free milk and M.T. stood up in parliament to fight against it!

SteveW

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SteveW

On Saturday 27 April 2013 22:21 Percy Picacity wrote in uk.d-i-y:

And the sheeple get what the sheeple deserve. No one makes anyone follow crap media. They do it because they want to. There's only so much you can legislate for,

Reply to
Tim Watts

Lots of politicians stand up in Parliament (or wherever else) to "fight" against something purely to accumulate the image of having fought whilst actually agreeing with the policy.

(I have not gone to the archives to find out exactly what she said, etc.)

Reply to
polygonum

That makes you a bigot in my book.

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Huge

[god: I can almost see you foaming at the mouth!]

My dear chap: you're not talking about "miners", you're talking about "the working class" -- who, the world over, and from the dawn of time, will not work harder than they absolutely have to. And I *think* (I may be wrong) that this includes all those chaps higher up the pecking order who do their business on the golf course , or in the corporate hospitality seats at Wimbledon

Aye -- and it's so cheap nowadays!

Ballcocks. Like Thatcher, he was a small-minded power-nut: they absolutely needed each other. (Just as Thatcher also needed Galtieri.)

Y'know --- I never saw this "well-known" factoid until recently: it's clearly something the Tory propaganda machine has turned up. But whereas in the Wilson era pits were closed for (as has been stated) reasons of safety and viability, Thatcher went all out to destroy an entire industry, and with it the communities that were built around it.

"Let them [get on their bikes and] find other jobs" - ???? It's exactly analagous to the anecdotal Marie Antoinette quotation about the poor eating cake.

Oh, no doubt, no doubt, old chap. The older I get, the more I realise that "the economy" is whatever the speaker wants it to mean. In your case: "I am not getting my fair share of money, because it's all been (and is being) given to those workshy bastards up North."

Oh we'd all love to know what you mean by that! Exactly HOW would Thatcher get us all out of this mess ... which by the way is a global mess, kicked off by Reaganomics, which basically seemed to mean "pay for stuff with money that you don't have": such a fundamentally WRONG philosophy that even Thatcher's own father would have told her it simply did not make sense.

John

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Another John

Fine.

But you in no way explained how she fought. And my comment was and is applicable to many politicians - most especially where they might wish to placate some people (e.g. their own constituents) though actually agree with a policy.

Reply to
polygonum

Most politicians are talentless attention seekers.

Reply to
harry

I don't need to. You're the one who said she was lying. Put up or shut up.

Reply to
Huge

Here's what she said/did.

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Reply to
harry

Where did I say that "she" was lying? I merely put up the possibility

*** in the absence of any evidence *** and implied that many politicians do so. If I cared enough, I would go and look at the archives to see exactly what was said, etc.

Had I been such a hypocritical bigot as you suggest, maybe I would NOT have drawn attention to my not going to the archives?

Reply to
polygonum

Unless it's absolutely ancient, it'll be much better than that - even our ten year old CRT TV takes less than 1W on standby. The digiboxes to make TVs work now that analogue's gone however ....

SteveW

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SteveW

I've never measured it or looked at the manual so 1 watt is fine by me:)..

Reply to
tony sayer

You need to be sectioned.

Reply to
The Other Mike

No need. I set up the school in the first place.

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The Other Mike

Which leads to this

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and mention of the autobiography of the evil bitch

and surprise, surprise NOTHING in any published cabinet papers to back it up.

Reply to
The Other Mike

I can see you were brainwashed from an early age.

Reply to
harry

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Mark

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