SDS vs SDS Plus

My bog standard Bosch drill is finally nearing the end of its working life, so it is time to look for replacements.

I'd like to get an SDS because I'll be doing a lot of chasing into walls, and it seem like just the ticket, and it also seems that SDS is also more up to the job of lots of masonry drilling.

Does anyone have any good tips or suggestions about buying using SDS drills?

Screwfix have a number of offers including a Bosch "GBH-2-24 DSR" 2kg SDS. Oddly it weighs 2.4kg, so should I assume that the "2kg" relates to something other than the weight of the drill itself?

Lastly, what are the major differenences between SDS and SDS Plus, is one better than the other, and is there anything I should consider when choosing between them? The £99 Bosch jobbie from Screwfix is SDS plus, and is currently ahead in the polls!

Thanks,

Chris

Reply to
Chris Styles
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SDS+ lets you chisel without drilling, if you see what I mean. What you'll want for chasing walls.

Reply to
Doki

Good plan.

Buy a DeWalt, Blue Bosch, or Makita. Get one with roto stop.

It just refers to the approximate weight of the machine. They come in

2kg, 4kg, 6kg etc. 2kg are the most flexible.

SDS is a superset which contains SDS Plus and SDS Max. SDS Plus is what all the machines you are considering use, every one of them. SDS Max is a much larger fitting, around 20mm diameter.

Reply to
Grunff

I got this Hitachi from this guy

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(link goes to an ebay shop) and it's superb - and believe me, I ain't half given it some wellie since I got it and it's never complained or let me down once. Highly recommended.

John.

Reply to
John

The few Hitachi tools I own or have used, I rate very highly.

However what is it with this new "power ranger" livery all their stuff comes in these days? ;-)

Reply to
John Rumm

Also, it is sometimes used erroneously in place of "joules" for impact energy, which is often similar to the weight in kg. I don't think Screwfix makes this mistake, though.

Christian.

Reply to
Christian McArdle

Isn't it repulsive? Being a total snob, that alone would put me off buying their current kit: looks like bottom-dollar Chinese stuff.

Reply to
rrh

The product manager should be sacked.

Quality products should have good function, mechanics and ergonomics and service.

If the manufacturer can't sell and deliver on that, they should not be in the business.

There is no need for boy racer stuff. That's for Argos and equivalent places.

Reply to
Andy Hall

Or at least get a free pint of whatever it is he is drinking!

Which it seems the *do* have...

Their job here does seem to be harder than it otherwise might be due to their previous positioning in the market. There was a time when they made no attempt to market to end users at all, and postioned themselves as a trade only supplier. Now I can't tell if that is still the case and they are just trying to generate more attention in this market, or if they are trying to push into the retail/end user market.

Reply to
John Rumm

I really don't know.

If you look across the quality brands ( Makita, Bosch, DeWalt, Festool) they position there products with quite plain labelling and appearance. DW is yellow which is noticable, but the others don't do appearance stuff.

Even the Techtronics Ryobi brand doesn't try this, but delegates it to the Techtronics Power Devil brand or its OEM products.

I suspect that Hitachi doesn't have a good market share in comparison to the other quality brands, so the product managers are wondering what to do next. Doing boy racer stuff might achieve something but doesn't build market share in the quality market. They will need to do the difficult things to achieve that.

Reply to
Andy Hall

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seem to think the Hitachi go-faster stripes are the way to go.

Reply to
Grunff

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Missed that one.

Certainly there needs to be some sackings in the marketing departments of these companies.

They produce good products and service and then, as we've seen put together packs of cheap drill bits, screwdrivers etc. in an attempt to add bundle "value"

I suspect that these are all 23 year olds with no clue. I think that I need to get them together and explain to them how to do marketing properly and how not to c*ck up a brand. It's not difficult.

Reply to
Andy Hall

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