Re: OT: Why you should not use Windows : issue 1

En el artículo , The Natural Philosopher escribió:

Yes, thanks, I tried it on DeadRat a few years ago (before it became Fedora) and it ran fine. The fonts were a little skewiff but I'm pretty sure that will have been sorted in newer versions of Wine.

For my sins, I run Windows at home for day-to-day stuff as most of the apps I run are Windows-based. I have a seperate box for when I want to use Linux, and my NAS media/backup server runs CentOS.

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Mike Tomlinson
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In message , T i m writes

Serious ignorance alert! What is a KVM switch?

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Tim Lamb

keyboard-video-mouse switch. So you have one set of those and can switch the lot from one computer to another. I'd get one for the 3 Macs I've got here but Screen Sharing is easier to use.

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Tim Streater

In message , Tim Streater writes

Ah! Less complex than I imagined. What about audio and printer functions? (my printer is Wi-Fi enabled but sits on the desktop.)

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Tim Lamb

I didn't want to make things even more confusing by saying it is

*actually* a 'KVMA' (inc audio) switch. ;-)

I've been using them for years ... first the purely mechanical switch boxes (with DIN keyboard sockets ), then the type with a remote pushbutton to 'toggle' between the two machines to what I'm using now where a double tap on the 'Scroll Lock' key toggles back and forth. This one in fact:

A couple of even sadder mates have 4 way KVMA boxes (although to be fair, one runs a PC shop) ... and I'm considering one myself.

I've tried that with various solutions but going X-OS and not having any one machine on all the time (to act as the host) isn't so convenient for me as a KVM type solution. They are also (for similar reason) 'better' when doing stuff pre OS (obviously) like setting up the BIOS (not particularly relevant to Macs either).

Cheers, T i m

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T i m

Did you read that TNP ... *another one* who just *has* to use Windows as their daily desktop because 'most of their apps are Windows based ...'. Not a free choice, something they 'have to do' *because* they can't do the same on Linux, even if they wanted.

So, even if he *wanted* to go over to just Linux he couldn't, no matter how much you wanted to spread (only) the positive gospel of Linux and hide all it's limitations in your blind advocacy.

Cheers, T i m (running and tasting Linux for a good few years now).

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T i m

Yes, though V5 was the old version. V6 is a very different program and doesn't.

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Chris French

In message , Tim Lamb writes

You can get similar things to switch printers between USB, but why not just print to the printer over wifi?

The desktop doesn't need to have wifi, It's just a network printer, connected using wifi effectively.

The printer connects to the wifi hub, the computer then prints to the printer via the network

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Chris French

Well we don't do audio here.

I only use it to bring up the screen on the server here so I can verify every few days that Time Machine is working properly on the server or if I want to check that my app still works on Snow Leopard. Oddly though you can't actually go into TM's Star Wars screen via Screen Sharing (not that I have needed to do that so far).

I assume Screen Sharing won't work for a cross-OS solution but I don't need that here.

Yes, there's nothing to configure in the EFI or whatever it's called. Even if I booted from another source I'd normally just set that in the System Prefs. If the OS isn't working then I might hold the option key down at startup to choose another boot volume or the network, but I've not actually tried that recently.

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Tim Streater

Well, he could. He could run it in a VM like I do if I need to run Publisher or test my app under Win7.

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Tim Streater

Keboard Video Mouse switch.

A primitive early version of a virtual machine allowing you to control more than one computer from a single keyboard and mouse and screen

Now only found in legacy cases where the underlying Windows operating system is too unstable to run a virtual machine. Or the owner is too stupid to install and set one up.

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The Natural Philosopher

Just install windows fonts on the Linux

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The Natural Philosopher

Well, possibly, with an emulator (or whatever you would call it) like WINE?

But that's still (to all intents and purposes) 'running Windows', which was actually the point. ;-)

Like me insisting I detest Peugeot stuff then driving a Rover with a Peugeot engine and pretending that's somehow 'ok'. ;-)

Cheers, T i m

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T i m

Or, even if it isn't, I believe many USB KVM switches will switch 'anything' connected on the (or 'a') USB port, including a USB (only) printer if required.

Many have a USB 'Host' port that you can use for memory sticks or hard drives and I found that handy on my mates switch for moving files between machines that weren't at that point networked (or taking stuff in or out of that otherwise isolated group).

Cheers, T i m

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T i m

Are you all 'acoustically challenged'? ;-(

Ok. I can do that with the remote console function on my Widows Home Server.

What's that then (I know what Time Machine is)?

Well, I think depending on what you are using to provide the screen sharing I think you can (cross-OS).

Assuming you could get that far etc?

So, can you 'see' the video output of a Mac that's just booting up with your 'Screen Sharing' solution (cool if you can)?

Cheers, T i m

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T i m

Translation: "My bias and bigotry towards everything I don't like or understand makes me confused regarding the purpose of things and the needs / preferences of others"..

You got that bit right at least. Shame that because of your 'fingers in your ears' killfile, you gave the answer a long time after others.

Translation: Still used and sold in great quantities by people switching to have *full* control (eg, from hardware boot onwards) of more than one machine or a range of machines and running different OS's"

Translation: "My bias, arrogance and bigotry once again forces me to be both confused ... and insulting to anyone who might enjoy the opportunity of switching between machines in a simple and reliable way, irrespective of OS and the state of the machine at the time".

Cheers, T i m

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T i m

Well I'm not sure what audio I need on a computer, really. If I want to listen to a CD I'll do that downstairs where the stereo is.

Righto, that sounds similar.

To restore a file from TM, you "go into" Time Machine. That gives you a nice screen of you doing Warp Factor 2 or so towards a distant galaxy with stars zooming past. In the middle is a stack of Finder windows that go backwards in time from the present - as you click on one, the stack moves towards you (see the image here):

If you've then selected a Finder window for the date you're interested in, you can then navigate in that one to the file you want to restore and tell TM to restore that one (or f'rinstance delete all backups of it). It will then exit Star Wars and ask where you want the backup restored to.

That makes it quite simple for most restores that I've needed to do. If you said that the Star Wars imagery is OTT I'd have to agree :-)

(actually, looking at that Winky link it would seem that they've recently dumped the Star Wars look. In TM, you still get the stacked Finder windows but against a backdrop which is a blurred version of your desktop picture. Shame that).

Well yes, hence the usefulness of also being able to choose an alternate boot source at startup.

No, just on my own Mac. If the server gets hosed then I'd just disconnect the KVM items from my Mac and reconnect them to the server, and put them back afterwards.

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Tim Streater
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Wow.

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Huge

Indeed.

let me see.

audible warning of things going in like an email arriving. Skype Background music while writing, Watching the odd TV and video program while using computer - well to be fair listening to the dialogue and only watching the car chases and space ships exploiding watching any amount of interesting you tube videos found by surfing, rather than using te TV..

Sheesh. I mean there is using compouters, and there is having one as an ornament

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The Natural Philosopher

You don't get numerous U tube urls for grandchildren videos?

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Tim Lamb

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