In message , Mike Tomlinson writes
OK Mike. I might manage that without destroying life as we know it:-)
Understood. The W7 is on a separate second hand m/c. Not much younger than this one but dual core.
>En el artículo , Tim Lamb escribió:
Yes.
En el artículo , Tim Lamb escribió:
My apologies, by "upgrade" I thought you meant you wanted to upgrade the OS on an existing machine, not the machine itself.
Also Belarc Advisor:
You are very welcome.
One good turn etc. ;-)
As it is here for mine, mostly.
Ah.
Fair enough. Well, I have been 'in IT support' most of my life and still *like* helping people when and wherever possible.
And I also try to make that help actually help. Telling someone to 'Learn XP' isn't my idea of help, as 1) it may not be 'their thing',
2) it often isn't what they want (as in the focus) and 3) in many cases they will in turn help someone else with things they are good at (so it all goes round so to speak).Also giving them help that doesn't *actually* help isn't really help either.
So, giving help requires empathy (in the true sense of 'giving'), IMHO anyway. ;-)
If you don't already have one, a bootable Linux DVD is quite a handy tool and assuming you have a DVD writer on your XP machine (and a blank DVD or two), something you can do in your leisure and you never know may be needed.
I'd start with the latest copy of Mint:
And if you don't have an easy burner for .ISO files (the Mint one above), this it pretty good / easy:
Download the Linux image (.iso), select, 'Write image to disk' in Imgeburn, select the file you just downloaded and click on 'Write'.' It might be best to burn it at a slower speed than Max (it can be more reliable I understand).
Once complete, you should be able to boot any PC and run Linux from the DVD itself (it may happen on it's own or you press a key like F12 at the start to tell it to boot from the DVD drive), including connecting to your Ethernet / WiFi and running a web browser. ;-)
If you are ever rained in and fancy a look at the new (W7) PC, I can talk you through it on the phone. ;-)
Cheers, T i m
In message , Richard writes
Though there is a possibility that the key . might not work with that download if it is a volume licensing key. Might be a case of suck it and see.
In message , T i m writes
I have Nero on this m/c. I've not delved into what is included with the W7 job but it has a DVD installed and a 3.5" drive:-) Remember those?
OK. There is no urgency although Demon are threatening to turn off the lights in 17 months or so.
I have had it running. It didn't look that different from XP.
In message , Mike Tomlinson writes
Ah! Thanks.
>In message , Richard writes
A choice:-) Thanks again.
In message , Chris French writes
er.. Pass. I don't know if this was a multi-user educational supply or installed by the guy who re-furbished it and sold it to me.
I have been on line with it and not had any reactions from MS but haven't actually gone looking for trouble:-)
In message , Mike Tomlinson writes
Takes a lot more than that to offend me:-)
>In message , Tim Lamb writes
Oh, the machine will probably be happy working as it is. However the download link I gave says that it's not for volume licenses, so it might not let you download or install it if yours is a volume license key
That should also be able to burn from an .iso image (I have done so with my bought copy on W7 and older / free versions on XP).
As long as it has a DVD ROM (at least) then we should be good to go for any OS or reinstalling W7 if you chose.
3.5" floppy drive you mean? If so, 'yes', I used one a couple of days ago to transfer some data from my BIL's old PC to a USB memory stick here (to be able to give it back to him). ;-)
Ok, well anytime you have the time (so not as soon as the weather turns nice probably).
No, it doesn't, for most of the key user interface / practical purposes anyway. It was W8 that looked very different (easily fixed for free) but had most of the W7 UI underneath once you could get to it. 8.1 Fixed that to a degree and W10.
FWIW I think W7 is supported till 2020 but if you fancied, you can upgrade that W7 machine to W10 for free until the middle of this year sometime? It might be worth doing while you still can and before you move away from XP (if you ever do). ;-)
Cheers, T i m
En el artículo , Tim Lamb escribió:
Extract the key with the Nirsoft utility I gave you a link to, and plug it into this:
if it accepts the key as valid, then it's good to (re)install with.
In message , T i m writes
Er.. after all the vitriol thrown at W10 in here, is this wise? Anyway the reason for sticking to 32 bit was the ability to continue with Turnpike 6.07 An earlier version is said to work on 64bit or there is the virtual m/c route but I am risk averse:-)
In message , Mike Tomlinson writes
OK Mike. Lots to be going on with. Thanks again.
>In message , Tim Lamb writes
To use Windows 10 is fine, looks a bit different, but I don't have any problem switching between W7 and W10. Unlike W8.x which I always found a bit jarring. And it works at least as well as 7. The only issue I would take with it really is the way it wants to garner info on what you are doing.
Fair enough, I gave up on Turnpike, expect for news reading. Most of my emailing is done on a phone or tablet nowadays anyway, and if I use the pc I use an IMAP client.
I guess that may depend what your focus is re the use of your computer(s).
If it were me and had those two boxes ... I'd get a KVM switch and have both PC's available sharing the one keyboard, video and mouse (it's what I do here).
I would then carry on with XP and upgrade the other PC to W10 and see what *you* think. You have 30 days to revert back to W7 if you don't like 10. Personally, I quite like it. There is nothing stopping you running the W7 for a while first but then you will get used to it and you know how we don't like change. ;-)
You can have 32 bit W7 and I believe you can have W10 in 32 bit too. Not really an issue if you only have 4G (or less) of RAM and / or don't push the machine very hard with lots of things open at once.
I wouldn't, especially considering your aversion. ;-)
Cheers, T i m
En el artículo , Chris French escribió:
Same here, I now use TB for email as I wanted to use IMAP, but TP is still an excellent news client. Running 5.02U on Win7 32-bit.
I have the original install floppies from Demon somewhere here :)
Looks like turnpike runs just fine on Linux using the Wine shim..
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