Re: OT: Why you should not use Windows : issue 1

[The Natural Philosopher]

yes you did. So more lies, more trolling

[T i m]

Cite or apologise.

You need help.

Cheers, T i m

[T i m]

Again, you are too literal. I wasn't asking for a literal translation of the terms you used but an actual real world explanation (if you were going to bother at all) of what you actually meant.

Understanding what Bandar Log Logic is or you saying 'Look you can be like the climate advocates who scream '97% of scientists say...so it MUST be true' didn't seem to apply to anything I was saying (but it may have in *your* head).

No it isn't. Try to keep up. ;-)

I'm sorry if you are confused by me. That is not my intention. However, you do seem to have some comprehension issues (including taking things too literally), as has been pointed out by others.

You understand the words but you don't always get the context.

It is if it is what you think it is. It is not.

Thanks for the heads up.

Cheers, T i m

[Huge]

[35 lines snipped]

W-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-lll. You have a point, but all the corporates I know anything about don't allow their users to have admin access to "their" machines (it isn't your machine - it's your employers machine) so even Windows users want their own.

[T i m]

Yeah, I saw that trick mentioned elsewhere but haven't tried it as yet.

I re-installed XP Pro on a PC last night and has had other stuff on it since and it automagically found all but the video driver (but gave a very useable display nonetheless) and then did 150 updates.

It's amazing now snappy it now feels.

Cheers, T i m

[Tim Lamb]

In message , T i m writes

Is this something that might benefit a technically slow farmer? The younger brains were busy over Christmas so the proposed move to W7 pro was deferred.

[T i m]

I might depending on what any updates may offer, but of course, MS don't recommend it:

Depending on how much hard drive space you have, you could have it dual booting XP/W7?

Cheers, T i m

[Andrew Gabriel]

That's much the reason I use a Macbook - I have to have things like MS Office (unfortunately), but I can also use the underlaying unix directly, and I can keep my files on ZFS. I wish OSX was based on a more modern unix (it's based on very old BSD), but at least most things will port to it without loads of work. I use VMware fusion to run more modern OS's on it when I need to.

[Tim Lamb]

In message , T i m writes

er... only 38.3 gig with 9.9 spare.

[T i m]

Hmm, a 40G (probably PATA) HDD, might be a bit small for W7 and a few apps. If you are considering upgrading to W7 and it is a 3.5" PATA drive, want me to see if I have a lightly used > bigger capacity one and stick it in the post?

Cheers, T i m

[Tim Lamb]

In message , T i m writes

There's kind! Actually NTFS. The W7 pro is on a second hand m/c taking up space on my desk. HD size currently unknown. The plan is to move my mail/news client to the W7 m/c and leave XP to wither.

My first attempt failed and I may have cocked up the registry hence the delay. Both m/cs came pre-loaded so I don't have CDs or the knowledge to start afresh.

[Chris French]

In message , Tim Lamb writes

You can download Win7 DVD images from MS (as long as you have your product key)

Can't help with the knowledge supply tho :-)

[T i m]

Or I might be able to help with a loan DVD if Tim knows what version he has (W7 Pro 32 / 64 bit)?

Well, whilst I'm no guru (on any OS) I'm more than happy to offer any help I can. The email addy works (should Tim fancy). ;-)

Cheers, T i m

[Mike Tomlinson]

En el artículo , The Natural Philosopher escribió:

You should have done it ages ago. He's just jerking your strings now.

[Mike Tomlinson]

En el artículo , Tim Streater escribió:

[Mike Tomlinson]

En el artículo , Brian Gaff escribió:

I used a cash machine in a branch of Santander in the Canary Islands recently. It swallowed my card before I noticed that the screen didn't look "right" - the window border and title bar were visible. On closer inspection the text in the title bar was "Microsoft Virtual PC 2003" (!). The machine hadn't crashed, but was very confused. It didn't want to give me the card back. Pressing loads of buttons at random got me a screen saying "Windows 2000" at one point.

Eventually the thing gave me the card back but it had corrupted the chip and/or mag stripe - it wouldn't work in any other machine after that. I got a message on screen saying the card was damaged and to call my branch. Thanks, M$.

I did tell the branch staff but got the classic Spanish shrug and "sí, es roto". They didn't even put a bit of paper on it saying "out of order".

[Mike Tomlinson]

En el artículo , Tim Lamb escribió:

It's not a bad idea, there have been several security updates issued since.

Create a new text file with a .reg extension and paste the following:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\WPA\PosReady] "Installed"=dword:00000001

double-click on it to install in the registry.

Windows Update will then show you several new updates. I don't think you even need to reboot first.

You know you can't upgrade direct from XP to 7? Clean install only. There is a way of doing it, but it's fiddly, ask if you want to know more.

[T i m]

I would prefer it if all 'Linux geeks did it from the beginning, that way *I* don't have to waste any of my time trying to get people to see things from a POV that isn't their own.

It looks like I finally managed that with TNP though, when he peeked out from under his foil hat and realised everything I was saying about the problems I had suffered with Linux were true. Not that it would stop him preaching the 'Linux is perfect' message when it's completely obvious to anyone but a fanatic that it's *far* from that.

It takes two to Tango and TNP has already been chastised on here for his off topic posts (of which this was definitely one), his verbosity, inability to read what was actually said (rather than what he *thinks* was said) and politics.

So, yes, I would much rather all the Linux geeks didn't reply to me at all as then it would be less embarrassing when they are asked to apologise for all their totally unwarranted accusations and abuse, especially towards those actually bothering to give Linux a look?

So what did we see from TNP to me re Linux (and this is all classic Linux geek stuff, as I know from bitter experience):

1) Denial. They deny what you are saying happened could possibly happen, in spite of there being thousand of instances of it reported all over the net, just (often) because it's never happened to them personally. 2) If you try to support your claims, to help them understand the situation better, you then get abuse. 3) If you then question their right to abuse you with no proof they either abuse you some more or killfile you (because they couldn't admit they were wrong so it's their only way out).

And it only takes one Linux geek to stir up the few others that are there and they all (well, one or two in this case) jump on the bandwagon.

So, as soon as TNP stopped transmitting and just went on receive for one second, he realised with the one current instance (of many many I have personally encountered) I gave him details on, *was* exactly what I said it was (installing RepetierHost on Linux for my 3D printer).

I often need to connect stuff to my PC's (which is were Linus himself admits Linux is weak and party why it hasn't made it on the desktop) whilst TNP admitted he doesn't and mostly just uses his Linux desktops (he admits) as typewriters ('easy', for any OS).

All that is needed is a little bit of empathy, not something most Linux geeks are known for. ;-(

Cheers, T i m

p.s. I downloaded and burned Linux Mint 17.3 Cinnamon 32 bit yesterday (to add to my already massive collection of Linux media) and tried to boot it on a 3Ghz AMD powered Lenovo desktop I was re-installing XP on to give away to a mate (who specifically want's XP). Mint wouldn't boot in full mode so I had to use compatibility mode (were it seemed to work ok but was slow). Had it worked fully OOTB I might have risked put it on the XP PC dual boot as I think it's handy to have a second bite at the cherry (and good for diagnostics / faultfinding / testing etc). That's why this 'Windows fanboy' (as anyone who doesn't denounce Windows for Linux is labeled by the Linux geeks, in spite of many of them still running Windows themselves!) has Linux dual booting on nearly all of his many PCs for years.

[Tim Lamb]

In message , Chris French writes

Hmm... refurbished ex school desktop. No paperwork of any sort. Can it be extracted in any way?

There are some helpful folk on demon.i/p.support.turnpike

I am afraid things have moved along since Watford FEC tried to teach me things about computers in 1970:-(

[Tim Lamb]

In message , T i m writes

32 bit chosen for compatibility with my version of Turnpike.

Thanks again, Tim. Offer bookmarked for future reference. Actually XP is currently adequate for my needs. I bought the W7 m/c when I thought my hard drive was failing.

SiL is the closest to *knowledgeable* in the family but he has a young family and spends a lot of time abroad so I try not to burden him.