Re: Another Nail in the High Street Coffin? O/T

Norway was a very POOR, rural country before oil was discovered.

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Venezuela?

That said, there are areas it operates in - particularly with more cosmetic procedures - that could be trimmed back. And I know it's akin to admitting to being foreign here, but things like fertility treatment ... are they *really* something that the NHS should be providing to all ?

Socialism can also not work. But that doesn't mean that it can never be made to work.

#Paul

Or contraception. ("Sex on the NHS" as headlined when provided "free".)

You can even get Viagra (or equivalent) on NHS prescription. Not sure why.

It's bert.

Boys who go to the grammar school wear blue blazers. Therefore every boy who wears a blue blazer must do too.

The cost of contraception compared with the cost (socially as well as economic) of unwanted pregnancies makes it a special case.

Again, the cost of providing it is probably far less than the costs of dealing with men who decide to obtain it via unofficial channels.

Who knows ? It may be that cosmetic surgery or infertility treatment could also be shown to have a similar small-cost vs. large potential saving benefit. In which case I would revise my initial assertion.

However all of the preceding requires a view of society that may not chime with all political choices.

I'm of the view that the last thing the planet needs is more humans.

So we shouldn't fund infertility treatment.

Andy

Why would the inability to have an erection not be treated by the NHS? Is it something to do with your upbringing? ;-)

Costmetic surgery, in particular, might alleviate some mental health problems

I totally agree

Which logically follows.

However, there appears to have been a not so subtle coopting of the

...given access to unlimited supplies of someone else's money....

So might a sackful of cash ...

If the NHS are providing the erection why don't they also provide someone to use it with?

Owain

Why is it only free if you have certain listed conditions? Why not everyone (except perhaps some extreme geriatrics)?

(Is it part of a QALY (

Would you expect to have replacement knee etc surgery if there's nothing wrong with your present one? Just to make sure you're not losing out on NHS spend?

I came across this a few years ago, whena lady I knew was in hospital for some work associted with her terminal cancer. She was told she needed a new knee and given one. She died 6 months later. The horse-drawn hearse held up a lot of impatient motorists.

Sure, but that’s the detail of how the socialism is done, not relevant to the point being made, that socialism CAN work a lot better than the non socialist approach in some areas.

It clearly hasn’t with say car manufacture but that doesn’t mean that it doesn’t with health care etc. Or exploiting the country's oil and gas resources.

Yes, the swiss approach to heath care does work very well, but it is also the second most expensive way to do health care world wide.

That line can't fly.

We know that they don?t given that most health care systems don?t cover cosmetic surgery except when the initial appearance isnt anything unusual.