Part P government review 2010/11

Testicular (or ovarian) amputation for offenders? (Only one per offence though, and humanely.) It'd have the benefit of reducing the propensity to offend cascading down the generations (whether by nature or nurture or both).

(I'm with those who consider fines for uninsured drivers near to useless: they average less than £200 - probably less than 25% of the cost of insurance. Crushing's not much better when they can pick up a car for £500 or £600 pounds - still well below the cost of one year's insurance.)

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Robin
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Indeed. Plus:

a. if filling stations could discriminate they could simply be required not sell; but

b. the rest of us probably wouldn't be too happy to queue while insurance is checked (and then checked further when it turns out the database is out of date); and to lose the ability to pay at the pump. And it'll all add to costs of course.

And buying a foreign registered vehicle wd continue to be another way to waltz round all such checks. (The number of Romanian registered cars around here is quite remarkable. In the South East it is increasingly worth a booze cruise every 6 months to get the paperwork to show the car's not been here more than 6 months.)

Reply to
Robin

And don't forget, I would be selling the fuel at somewhere between the two prices.

Reply to
ARWadsworth

You first.

Reply to
Mark

The penalty is much too small. However they do have to catch them first.

I'm not sure what's wrong with the idea to use fuel taxes to provide third party insurance.

Reply to
Mark

I assume you have in mind universal third party insurance paid for by the government out of taxation (whether general taxation or hypothecated fuel taxes). If so I can see that would be an option, and one which might win some votes: the "right to drive" slogan might work.

Against that some (many?) might perceive disbenefits such as:

a. the safe/elderly drivers would have to pay more while the boy (and increasingly girl) racers and careless would pay less;

b. high mileage drivers (eg in rural areas, driving on business, freight) would pay more and low mileage drivers (eg drug dealers on the local estates) less;

c. more young/bad drivers with big, fast cars - after all, they (or Mummy and Daddy) wd no longer have to pay for insurance so they could buy an Impreza instead of a Fiesta etc;

d. no incentive to avoid accidents if the "right to drive" is universal and inalienable;

Reply to
Robin

Works for me if you throw in free chips ;)

Reply to
Robin

It's too simple. I've recommended it here a few times in the past, and it works reasonably well in all the countries where it is in force.

On the other hand, most cars without insurance have other dangerous faults, and removing an excuse for a "random" pull might have undesirable side effects.

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John Williamson

Reply to
ARWadsworth

Most have a limit - pretty low - on claims from a third party.

Reply to
Dave Plowman (News)

/Mode=Ironic Which, of course, makes it impossible to even *consider* setting something similar up in this country. Mode/

Reply to
John Williamson

That's not an idea let alone a better one.

Reply to
dennis

anpr.

Reply to
dennis

Well leaving things as they are is a better idea than the brain dead idea you came up with.

It took me 3 seconds to work out how to bypass your superb suggestion.

Reply to
ARWadsworth

So tell us how that would stop me buying fuel for someone that is not insured and pumping the fuel between the cars tanks?

You have not thought this through have you?

Reply to
ARWadsworth

Well there is nothing to stop criminals conspiring other than the law now. The fine and the lose of your license should be enough to discourage you. Maybe branding you would help too.

Reply to
dennis

You are the one that came up with with an idea to make it easier for the criminal

Why do you wear a pointed cap with a D on it? What does the D stand for?

Reply to
ARWadsworth

or ryvita...

Reply to
js.b1

Well there you are.. I said nothing about implementation or what transponders, etc. would be fitted to the car yet you know how to beat them. You must be far brighter than I give you credit for.

Reply to
dennis

I don't mind going first......

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the_constructor

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