Part P (again)

Even putting to one side many of the conveniently-forgotten issues of privity of contract, I completely agree.

However, I believe that there is at least one agent out (heard an interview on R4 a long while ago) there that routinely offers vendors the chance to put together a voluntary seller's pack, and she reported that it was for her clients a tremendous success. In a rapidly rising market, of course!

All for voluntary packs, but why the hell should they be made compulsory? Nu Labour's obsession with rules, regulation, legislation, compulsion, command & control, I suppose...

NO! To stop people cheating.

I find your naive faith amusing.

That's a joke. Yesterday, you were the one who was dreaming up all kinds of loopholes for getting out of part P controls.

I was not dreaming I was applying intelligence to the law. You were dreaming and opinionating and generally coming out on a tangent. That was sad.

Lecky laws and buying house laws are very different. Something you obviously can't figure out. This is also sad.

Unlike yourself, I do not have third world logic.

The gas conversion companies took anyone off the street and gave them a quick course. Most could not understand simple instructions. The local gas board depots had to clear up all the crap after six weeks or so after the conversion date, when the cowboys moved on to terrorise another district.

Each time they converted an area the police were inundated with complaints as people had no one else to turn to in desperation.

Never. The cv is too low.

compulsory?

Caveat Emptor.

If you discover something amiss with the electrics on your newly bought property, who ya gonna sue?

Vendor? Could be long gone.

Vendor's appointed surveyors? Long established legal precedent has tested privity of contract time and again. Even if you do have a claim against them, you might find that their survey was fine within the remit of the vendor - ie the minimum possible survey allowed under the law. And that will have probably cost more than it should have done, cos their PI insurance will have gone up, because there is no longer a defined duty of care to a single party.

Best thing you can do is appoint your own professionals to provide you with as comprehensive a report as you want before the purchase. It's all nice, simple and straightforward then.

ROTFL..... !! You weren't exactly succeeding. You couldn't even read the clauses properly.

You were opinionating and passing it off as being the law. Silly man.

"Mike Tomlinson" wrote | >For you I would recommend the Ladybird Book of Electrical Wiring. | Let's not run before we can walk. I'd suggest dIMM gets the Ladybird | Book of Reading Comprehension, then the Ladybird Book of Spelling and | Grammar before proceeding to anything as complicated as wiring.

s/wiring/walking

Owain

Is that "simple or obvious" or "simple and obvious"? I'd have thought it would be simply obvious. :-)

So then, we can deduce that you lack comprehension and have limited typing ability with your statement? Now that's brilliant English.

"According to the Woolwich's Cost of Moving Survey, more than half rely solely on a mortgage valuation when buying a property and very few pay for a full scale survey. In the South West the figure is 7%, with 47% opting for a home buyers report. In East Anglia 52% take out a homebuyers' report and 2% a full survey.

Greater London, East Anglia and the South East buck the trend somewhat, with 62% opting for a more detailed home buyers' report while 12% --the highest proportion anywhere?fork out for a full structural survey."

I didn't get a full scale survey - but I certainly didn't rely on the mortgage valuation. In fact, they never even bothered to send it to me!

Which is precisely why I didn't purchase one. Not sure any inspection would have discovered the actual problems I found after purchasing the property - for example the uninsulated terminal block in the loft insulation just waiting for a wire to work loose and start sparking... A gas inspection might have told me the boiler was dodgy, but it wasn't like I couldn't tell that from looking at it and had already budgeted for it.

Ben

Perhaps IMM can interpret for us?

or any other kind it seems....

I certainly wasn't, and the correct word would be "opining" if I were.

Did you go to school with 2jags? He seems to be semiliterate as well.

Except "fuzzy" perhaps.