OT: Why can't a petrol engine start itself?

Mar 22, 2018 181 Replies
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They used to strip lobes. The ones with the larger spray holes, 2.0L and those that had been modified fared better.

The head had to come off as the camshaft was removed/entered backwards.

I would check the spray bar was working and on more than one occasion found one hole partially blocked with what looked like a carbon particle.

To say it was a common fault when all those around know nothing about it..................

I'm referring to the load on the cam lobes themselves. The shape of them produces a very high load per square inch when opening a valve. Which is why cams and cam followers are always made of steel with a good oil supply. Unlike a crank which is steel with a softer material for the bearings.

Correcting lots of factual mistakes without actually knowing the facts, isn't really a beneficial use of your time.

Keyboard prodding in general might benefit from a rethink as far as you are concerned.

Unless you are on some finger muscle building exercise regime, I would suspect that you may have more productive areas of research.

AB

Ladas were popular when I was looking to buy my first car.

I noted everything about them, price, reliability owners reports and the one thing that did hit home was the repeated adverts for cheap camshaft replacement. The main dealer in Staffordshire was in Cobridge Stoke on Trent, there were also others that did sales and service.

I do remember quite clearly the camshaft adverts. Not a lot on the web at that time though.

Big mistake really, when I waited and bought a Morris Ital [First car that I actually owned and wasn't provided by a company], Now that was junk.

AB

The bit that NT didn't understand, and many others too, is why you think your word has authority over everyone else's. It seems a Remoaner trait.

Is that why you're so bitter and abusive to Brexiters? You didn't see the result coming?

QED and in denial.

My experience was that 99% of the time the contacts would be closed after the engine stopped. That might not be the case for more than 4 cylinders.

I think Brexit is stupid, the result of the referendum shocked me, but I certainly dont moan about it.

I think it's good for the EU, and would do everything possible to ensure that Britain never, ever gets the opportunity to rejoin.

As for the morons that support Brexit, I thank them for their actions simply for supplying planet Earth with so much light entertainment.

I would guess that the thugs are for Brexit personally, the same as Trump supporters in the US would be if asked, their leader thinks it's good. The UK findings confirmed that Brexit voters tended to be disadvantaged and dim. [Dim! Deep shock and amazement, it took research for that :-)].

Basically the common theme is thick, violent tribalism along with a desire for self harm.

So it does not really matter what the final aim is, if you have the three preceeding characteristics, the actions are fairly predictable.

People that wish to remain, or even just be critical of the decision, probably have a range of balanced reasons behind their philosophy.

Even your stupid "remoaner" term immediately assumes that anyone being critical of the decision or even being critical of May's abilities as a comedian, is lumped in with remainers.

Probably an Express or sun derived word to help brainwash their dimwits with.

Incidentally when the conservatives continue to screw up and drive Britain into ruin, the pillocks will probably revive the death penalty as a means to cling to popularity and power.

Then all the thick tossers that managed to vote for Brexit will use the same stupid set of values along with a bit of fear provided by the tabloids, to vote for capital punishment.

Like Brexit the clueless morons wont even make the connection when the result unfolds, and like Brexit, trumps supporters, football thugs and capital punishment supporters, it is the disadvantaged idiots that voted for it that will suffer most.

As far as the bit you didn't understand goes, Why on earth didn't you say?

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I trust that assists?

AB

I never thought that the voters could be that stupid no.

I am a little bit irritated because my sterling has less power in the EU, but as I have a Euro account to go at, it isn't having any significant effect so far.

No far from it, I spent three weeks in Ireland, watching the morons on TV. May and her pillocks were being made proper fools of.

Jolly japes, it's like having a permanent comedy channel to watch.

You are out, shut up and accept it!

You made your bed, you lie in the mess.

Just dont try to worm your way back.

A procedure that is fully underway incidentally, but the Brexiteers are too dammned thick to see what's happening.

Billions wasted to be worse off.

Never mind, "British and proud of it eh?"

AB

For someone who hates the UK that much, you post disproportionately to UK groups.

You really do know everything don't you?

I don't hate the UK.

I have no time for thick ignorant people.

Nationality is of no concern, if they are thick and ignorant, they are dross to be ignored if possible.

Thick is o/k

British is o/k

European is o/k

Thick and ignorant are not o/k

I post to UK groups because I speak, read and write English.

I hate or love no country, a country is something I can buy a bit of in a garden center, and I have never yet felt emotional over a bag of topsoil.

Were I able to communicate in other languages, I would be only too happy to exchange ideas with other countries also.

AB

Then it was financially efficient for the buyer. Most don't care much how efficiently it was made.

Well, the Royce in question was an inline 6. ;-)

Correct.

I think their marketing was abysmal though. Some of the Rigonda Hi Fi would grace any home in looks and performance, but they were never overly popular.

Probably because at the price people smelt a rat.

AB

Only if the CB points happen to be closed. Even then, the lack of a condenser across the ignition switch contacts makes it highly unlikely that enough energy will be available to the secondary HT winding of the ignition coil to generate the 1 or 2 KV required to jump the spark plug gap at atmospheric pressure in whichever cylinder just might happen to have a sufficient charge of ignitable fuel/air mixture remaining to give sufficient impetus to the crank in order to prime the next cylinder in the firing order to keep the engine running thereafter.

If you're going to attempt what amounts to a one shot party trick, your only chance is to waggle the advance/retard lever to operate the CB points (which have an arc suppression condenser wired across them) whilst the crank is at a viable angle to promote just such a start up sequence.

My car is quite clever at starting and starts immediately, and also revs the engine for you, to get it going. Idle speed is then gradually lowered as it warms up. What pisses it off is if it fails to start, due to me not turning the key for quite long enough. Then the second start it must have the fuel mix wrong or something as it takes a whole second to fire. Mind you it is French. Why don't all cars have start buttons, engaging the starter for the precise amount of time automatically? They only just seem to be coming in recently, they should have been possible as soon as we developed the ECU.

Lada, improved, ROTFPMSL!

Who in their right mind buys either a Fiat or a Lada?

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Weren't they based on the Fiat 124?

Yes, but far more rugged.

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