OT: video editing, Win10 Photos

Ha, cracked it. Posting here to help anyone else who might fall down the same rabbit hole. This machine is set up with a particular MS account. I have a different MS account that includes my Office 365 subscription including OndDrive settings. The accounts obviously (sort of) know about each other because I can run Office 365 software without any problem, and also access the terabyte of OneDrive space.

But, Photos is not so smart. It's only spotting the "Pictures" folder of the "Office" user, not of the main (and normally logged in) user on this machine. And, to get Photos to see the "other" Pictures drive it has forced me into the whole rigmarole of setting up that account on this machine, including changing the whole look and feel, forcing me to work through Edge until I got back into control, etc.

I had read other posts recently about the new MS Win10 aggressive behaviour, but that's the first time I've seen it.

Takeown command ?

Implicit Takeown in File Explorer ?

Does this involve the usage of accounts that don't belong to the Administrator group ?

There might be an explanation for it.

It's possible for files to have two or more owners. Takeown allows two accounts to browse the same directory. And if you belong to the Administrator group, you can snoop just about anywhere, and the "magic green bar" appears at the top, to fiddle the permissions.

After the green bar runs, dig down into the tree and select a file and do Properties. See if there are now two accounts listed as Owner. That shows the security-smashing potential of the Administrator Group membership.

You can configure a setup for "security", but don't expect the machine to be entirely friendly afterwards. I don't run that way, because I don't need the aggravation.

Paul

Nice thought. I had not come across that before. However, all the local folders of interest are shown with both accounts having access, but Photos is *only* seeing a OneDrive folder.

And if you turn off OneDrive access within Photos it can't see anything.

Did this not work ?

A quick Google suggests you may have to work backwards,

You first have to create a folder somewhere.

Then Open photos click the three dots then SETTINGS

Now click on the folder you created and an option should appear, add this folder to Pictures, not photos for some reason

I should add that I've never used any of this stuff myself as I still can't see what's so wrong with XP

michael adams

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WOW

you can trim videos with the Photo App - who knew?

I've been weeks looking for a free app to do that, downloaded half a dozen apps that superficially were free, but weren't (and then one that took 40 minutes to re-write the shorter clip into a file 10 times bigger than before it was clipped)

Thanks

When I tried to run my Photos here, the damn thing did not start, and it railed on one core (executable running but no window to show). I don't use Photos, no Cloud Drives, and the damn thing really doesn't have an excuse for not making a proper debut.

Paul

No.

Easy enough. I already have one in Pictures (actually on both accounts, including the "inactive" one that Photos seems to prefer)

Photos simply does not see it. Only folders in Pictures/OneDrive

(i.e. the "mirror folder" for the cloud drive).

It's typical Windows to provide non-intuitive ways of doing things. Having to click on the file to make it accessible by the program, rather than providing a command within the program menus to make the file accessible. I put it down to stuff being developed by small teams; and some of the menus people being off sick for a few days and so missing off some of the commands.

As I said I use XP3. And to get the most out of that you need to use stuff in Powertools TweakUI, which should have been there from day one, in XP1.

michael adams

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FYI Windows Movie Maker is available as a free app for Windows 10 -

Thanks, I didn't realise it had come back. I've looked into this a few times in the past and plenty of people seemed to be grumbling about its remova.

Much as I liked 7 and indeed XP, I decided it was too much effort to mix systems on my home network.

I just checked another Win 10 query.

Some poor chap simply wanted to know how to save a Word Document. When before it was simply an ever present option, along with Save As, on the file menu at the top left of the screen

Instead he was directed by the Microsoft advisor to another link with screenshots

The first caption and screenshot

" Save your document to OneDrive so you can get to it from anywhere - at work, at home, or on the go."

Unless his broadband or phone connection is down I presume.

But how touching of Microsoft. Their first priority ensuring users can get their documents from anywhere. Using their Microsoft Cloud facility. Now why would that be, I wonder ?

Amazon Web Services, the retailer's market-leading cloud platform, generated $10.2 billion in net sales this quarter

michael adams

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I was a bit underwhelmed at first, but once I figured out the UI I found the free one was doing enough of the basics to be worth investing £12-50 in. So many thanks for the heads up, and watch this space!

Not sure that it is really the old MS movie maker though, it doesn't have as much functionality in saving different types. I think it is just a third party app in the MS store. They trumpet that it has 5 million users, but that doesn't really sound like huge market penetration to me.

The installer mentioned for Windows Live, a suite of programmes which includes Windows Movie Maker, is 2012. I have just installed WMM (Windows Live Movie Maker) on Windows 8.1 from the older 2009 installer. It also installed Windows Live Photo Gallery. I don't know for certain, but I don't think you will do any harm by trying the installer with Windows 10.

Thanks. Does WMM cope with HD video? It looks as though Movie Maker 10 only exports to 720P although it is (relatively) happily accepting 2.7k input from the GoPro.

Sorry, no idea. I have no use for the programme. I was only testing that it would install ok.