In order to claim that he "ignored" them, you need to provide evidence that he personally actually acknowledged their message, but then failed to respond.
In fact The Jewish Chronicle claim they contacted "his office". Unfortunately I don't have sufficient time on my hands to list all the ways in which the fact that the Jewish Chronicle honestly believe that they contacted his office, doesn't necessarily imply that Jeremy Corbyn personally recieved their message, let alone ignored it.
Corbyn is rather notorious for avoiding the press on doorstep etc interviews. Something rather refreshing over attention seeking by the likes of Boris and Farage. And all the other rent a quote types. Given just how wrong the meja were proved by writing him off as irrelevant in the early days, who can blame him?
So, you keep asserting. If you had been subjected to racist abuse, as I have been, your views might be different. As it is, where you have marked my replies as stupid above, that demonstrates a lack of empathy on your part.
Why would Jeremy Corbyn, his office or anyone else for that matter happily answer the seven diffficult questions posed by the JC, but choose to deliberately ignore the easy one they claim to have asked him, in the very same year ?
You might even think that all the people, yourself included, who are banging on about this one question from 2015, didn't realise that Corbyn had already answered seven far more difficult questions from the same source that very same year.
But of course getting any of them to to admit as much, is another matter.
As for you Joe Joe you can't really be expected to know any better I suppose. You simply lap up and repeat word for word any anti-Corbyn material that happens to be knocking around at the time.
They can't get him for kiddy fiddling, smoking dope, using prozzies, or being gay so as with Red Ken, a bit of that old standbye, anti semitism will have to fit the bill.
Because he is a politician? Because he and his advisers couldn't think of an answer that would let him wriggle out of it? It did, after all, take then at least two attempts eventually (ish).
I assume being an _active_ member of (at least 3) Facebook groups that are swamped with holocaust deniers, anti-Semitic, and anti-Jewish conspiracy theorists was also part of his free speech campaign?
Sometime just knowing who one's friends are (and note that I haven't even mentioned the IRA, Hamas, Hezbullah, etc) tells you all you need to know about a person.
Clearly the possibility that he may have been confronting these people by arguing with them, rather than simply agreeing with them, simply hadn't occured to you ?
Just as the fact that I post on uk-d-i-y a newsgroup which is swamped with climate change deniers, doesn't mean I agree with any of them, either.
Why not try thinking for yourself for a change eh, JoeJoe ?
Rather than simply repeating arguments word for word as written by people with a clear agenda for the guidance of gullible idiots.
Rather than allowing this to turn into my mission in life here's what Jewish Voice For Labour have to say about the matter
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And here's Jewish Voice For Labours Main Webpage
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I've included this latter link as the first link was overloaded the first two times I tried it.
Other than that just to re-iterate stfuff you probably already know which may be relevant
The idea of a Jewish Homeland first arose in the 19th century.
Since that time right up to the foundation of the state of Israel, small groups of Jewish people started moving to Palestine, buying up property , establishing farms etc.
Right from the start there was conflict between the indigenous Palestinians and the incomers. One reason alone is the rellive sophistication of the incomers, who's had to survive in a hostile world for centuries, but one which was realively technically advanced. Wheras the Palestinians lived in relative security iunder the Ottomans and had no need of or love for advanced technology.
This is a conflict which stil exists today.
As result the State of Israel has always felt itself under a state of seige to some extent. With all that that implies.
Howver in the eyes of some people at least the current Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu deliberately stokes up such fears and acts in a provocative manner purely for electoral advantage. Basically he's an Israeli precursor of Donald Trump. Basically to some Israelis and Jews in general he's an embarassment just as Thatcher was an embarrassment to many British people in her dealings with foreigners for one.
As to your actual point in repect of the Facebook Groups; a lot of deniers are probably trolls. JC probably relalises this as well as anyone; even if his detractors appear to have never ever heard of trolls.
That seems completely illogical to me. Rather than defending Corbyn in any meaningful way, they say things like: "Havering Conservative party issues a dogwhistle leaflet hoping to mobilise racism in their local election campaign. The Board of Deputies has been silent... "
A bunch of raving loonies in Havering are not on a par with the leader of the Labour Party, and however raving they are does not affect whether Corbyn is antisemitic or not.
I haven't read the Havering leaflet in full, but it did not appear to be antisemitic, so somebody with a better understanding of these things can perhaps explain why the Board of Deputies can be expected to be anything but silent about it?
I've snipped some stuff where you have written that the Palestinians need help and Netanyahu is a belligerent shit. I agree with that.
So, what is he doing on these groups if not facing up to the trolls?
I was just pointing out (reductio ad absurdum) that no rights are absolute.
But we are about to get repetitive, because I'll say: One man's right to freedom of expression infringes another man's right not to be offended by that expression, or indeed that expression may be downright abusive.
Then you'll say there is no right to not be offended.
And I'll say "sez you".
And so on.
It's a shame to delete the artwork, but as it was painted in the wrong place it had to go.
The whole raison d'?tre of trolls is to waste other people's time by luring/inciting them into pointless arguments which they, their victims can never hope to win.
Which is why they're best ignored
Unfortunately they're all over social media nowadays newspaper comment columns, Facebook, Twitter , UseNet etc etc. Its simply not economical to employ moderators to weed them out, assuming that this would be acceptable in the first place of course.
And so they are more or less impossible to avoid.
I find it very difficult to believe that you didn't already know this. Which places your other comments in a rather different light, I regret to say
Then when he doesn't reply, which they often don't to letters written in crayon, you can write to the "Jewish Chronicle" and tell them he's ignored you too.
But I'd skip the crayon for that one, if I were you.
Yes. I subscribe to uk.legal NG, even though it is now almost wholly infested by trolls. I just feel that some of the racist comments shouldn't go unanswered. More fool me, I guess.
This NG (uk.diy) was fairly free of that, or at least the trolling had something to do with diy. That seems to have changed in the last year or two, unfortunately.
Where it's a troll saying something inane about DIY, I usually ignore that. But the nasty racist stuff annoys me, and I rise to the bait.
Still, I subscribe to usenet groups that have a useful purpose, like this one. I am not sure what the nature is of the FB groups JC subscribed to?
Its in the very nature of trolling to ask questions - thus inviting the other person to put themselves to the trouble of replying - rather than to provide answers.
Surely if you were that interested in the nature of the FB groups JC subscribes to you'd find out for yourself ? Rather than ask me who as I've already explained more than once, knows nothing about Facebook and has no real wish to.
I know plenty of people with pages on Facebook, both friends and relatives, and having had a look at their pages from time to time I saw no real incentive to join myself, or investigate any further.
Corbyn's interest in the plight of the Palestinians is well know. And so at a wild guess I'd imagine those groups originally concerned themselves with that topic. Which by their very nature would then attract trolls, holocaust deniers and all the other usual suspects.
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