OT: slops in beer

From my sister:
Brian refused to accept a pint as the barmaid had poured beer from a plastic container into the glass before pulling the pint. She pulled him a fresh pint, but then the manager had a go at Brian for having sharp words with the barmaid. It looks as though this is normal practice, as each pump had a square plastic margarine tub balanced in the slop tray underneath the bar. Makes you wonder what other unpleasant or unhygienic practices go on there.
Bill
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Bill Wright wrote:

Although I do not agree with it could you explain why it is unhygienic?
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On 27/05/2016 05:10, F Murtz wrote:

The beer in the tray has passed over the hands of the barmaid. She has been handling change, etc.
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On 27/05/2016 05:17, Bill Wright wrote:

Also, the glasses have been through a dishwasher-type cleaner which runs at a high enough temperature to sterilise the glass. The drip tray (which is what they call the margarine tub around here) doesn't get cleaned at a high temperature (and it wouldn't survive if someone tried it) and can thus harbour fungi or bacteria.
Some landlords use the beer from the drip trays to make steak and ale pie (which sterilises the beer during cooking). Most empty it down the sink. It certainly shouldn't be served to customers.
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On 27/05/2016 13:16, Indy Jess John wrote:

No she says they were marge tubs in the drip trays!
Bizarre!
I think she'll be writing to the owners, and the council. I found her all the contact details, including the CEO of the pubco.
Wether she'll bother I don't know.
Bill
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On 27/05/2016 13:16, Indy Jess John wrote:

No need to empty it down the sink. You collect it all in the "spoilt beer" barrel and send it back to the brewery. They can then have HMRC assess the alcohol content of it and issue a refund on the duty paid.
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In a posh pub I used to frequent, one of the regulars spent a night scrounging what collected in the drip trays to stew steak in.
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On Fri, 27 May 2016 05:17:52 +0100, Bill Wright

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I thought beer is naturally antiseptic, which is why they used to give it to children as soon as they were weaned.
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On 27/05/16 13:30, Max Demian wrote:

Not really. It has been made with boiled water rather that the stuff with cholera etc in that came straight out the well (in medieval and Victorian times). The alcohol content is too low to be any use - you really need to be up to spirits level to be much use.
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It's the act of fermentation that kills most bugs. Not the alcohol content as such.
Which is why returning slops to a real ale wasn't as bad as it seemed. As the beer still fermented in the cask.
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On 27/05/16 14:16, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Suffocation of oxygen respiring organisms I presume?
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On 27/05/16 15:37, Tim Watts wrote:

No, its the alcohol. Eventually it kills the yeast too. It drowns in its own poison. Thst wahy we have 'surgical spirit' containing alcohol, and why Europe drinks not-fermeneting-any-longer small beer, cider and so on, because it sterilises doggy water.
Asian races drink tea for the same reason. Boiling water also kills bugs.
Anything Plowperson says can generally be found to be wrong.
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On 27/05/16 15:45, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Not at 4-5% alcohol!
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On Fri, 27 May 2016 15:45:00 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

He votes Labour so that tells us everything we need to know about his intelligence level.
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Not really sure of the how and why. Just what I remember being told at school.
At one time small beer was drunk by most - including kids. Very low alcohol content but safer than the water available then.
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On 5/27/2016 11:50 AM, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

It is my understanding that heating the water to scalding, before mixing up the brew, is what made it safe(r) to drink, as the heat killed off many disease organisms.
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Ah. OK. So why go to the bother of making small beer - especially for the kids?
You certainly can't brew at those temperatures - you'd kill the yeast. It works best at warm room temperature.
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Hmmm. One supposes they let it cool. But then why would they have known to boil it in the first place. Hmmm again.
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On 27/05/16 17:52, Tim Streater wrote:

To extract the contents of the malted barley :)
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Not known so much as necessary to get what you need out of the wort to make a viable liquor which is then filtered, cooled and fermented.

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