Sorry for the OT post but I'm not keen on any of the PC groups I've read.
Yesterday I accidently switched off the PC at the socket without shutting
it down - it shares the same mains as the Acorn I use for news and email.
It had only booted and no progs load at boot. When I came to use it later
Firefox had lost my bookmark file. It also threw up a Foxmark window I'd
not seen before and asked for a user name and password - which I really
can't remember ever having entered and don't want or need since I'm the
only one using that machine.
*I'm not as think as you drunk I am.
Dave Plowman firstname.lastname@example.org London SW
Firefox 1.5 and up automatically creates backup copies of your
bookmarks. They are saved in a folder called bookmarkbackups. You can
find this folder in your Firefox profile directory.
"C:\Documents and Settings\\Application
To replace lost bookmarks, simply copy the backup file to your profile
folder (one level up) and rename it to "bookmarks.html".
I'm on an awfully steep learning curve with windows after being only used
to the Acorn and couldn't find the file in Documents and settings. Found
it by doing a search on C, though. But how you copy it up one level
defeats me. Copy in the menu appears to do nothing - I was expecting a box
telling me where to copy it to. But I dragged it to a floppy then imported
it to bookmarks and everything seems ok now. So thanks for telling me the
*You never really learn to swear until you learn to drive *
Dave Plowman email@example.com London SW
Use this program for transfering files from one destination to the other.
You have two panes,one pane is the source and the other is the destination.
You have to locate the source file first in the (left) pane then click in
the opposite(Right)pane and locate the folder you require the source file to
be copied to.
One thing that will catch you, is the "Application Data" file has by
default its "hidden" attribute set. You need to got to the Tools |
Folder Options Menu, select the View tab, and find the "Hidden Files and
folders" entry. Set that to show hidden files.
while you are there you can change some other brain dead default settings:
Display full path in the address bar and same for the title bar are more
useful turned on. (helps you see where in the directory tree you are)
Turn off the evil "Hide extensions of known file types" - it is this
little gem that convinces people to double click files called
IamNotAVirusReally.txt.exe, because windows is daft enough to show it
with the default .txt application icon, when in fact it is an executable
Remember each folders view settings is handy in as far as it goes (it
actually only remembers the last 100)
Launch folder windows in separate process, will make things run a little
more snappily if you have a reasonable amount of RAM (i.e. >512MB)
Copy from the menu just copies to the clipboard. If you navigated to the
new folder and then did paste, you would get want you want.
Make sure you have the standard buttons toolbar on (View) menu - that
gives you the "up one level" navigation button. You can also double
click my computer again to open a second (or third or fourth etc) window
on the file system, to make dragging and dropping easier.
Using Ctrl + C to copy, CTRL + V to paste, and CTRL + X to cut (i.e.
move) files works. Another useful tip is clicking and dragging with the
right mouse button. This will pop up a context menu on the drop giving
options to let you choose a copy, move, or create shortcut.
For future reference, "Copy" copies it to the "clipboard". You then
navigate up a level (or wherever) and select "Paste".
If you want to *move* a file rather than copying it, use *cut* and paste
rather than copy and paste. Be reassured that it's actually only a
*reference* to the file that's put in the clipboard, and the file isn't
deleted from its old location until you paste it to its new location. So
there's no chance of losing a file by cutting it and then not pasting
This might all sound a bit weird, but I imagine you'll get used to it.
Copy, cut, and paste are part of the basic armoury of tools of all but
the most basic Windows user, and are very widely used, not just for
files, but for parts of documents and other objects.
Nothing personal, but it staggers me that people expect to be able to
use computers with little or no training. Have you considered buying a
book? e.g. http://tinyurl.com/28u4r7
I've had the dubious pleasure of lending a PC laptop to a friend in his
late 50s, who accepted it with bluster - 'if these kids can ...'. In the
last couple of weeks he's been close to tears as I've tried to help him
with simple things - shutting down (click Start!), saving documents,
opening programs. He needs these skills to get a job, and refuses
training. I think he finds the idea of 'school' demeaning - doesn't stop
him asking me though ;-). In the end I asked for the laptop back - it
was too stressful for us both. He's not daft - he has science and arts
degrees. There's just some sort of blockage.
While I was on hols for a month I said he could try my Mac. I showed him
how to switch it on and off, and how to launch programmes from the Dock.
That's all. He's taken to it immediately - I watched him on it the other
day, and while he and I do things differently (I'm still PC polluted),
he just zoomed through everything he needed.
Perhaps Dave might be better trying a Mac if training isn't an option?
I had the opposite problem :-)
Years of using windows (although I'm a solaris person really) meant that
when faced with my first Mac I was trying to make things harder than they
I couldn't work out how to uninstall an application for a while - never
crossed my mind to just drop it in the bin. My 6 year old however with
no preconceptions of how it works on windows immediately got the hang
Would never buy anything other than a Mac now though - for me it's the ideal
combination of Unix backend and easy to use GUI frontend. I spend my time
at work wrestling with Solaris - I have no desire to carry on at home :-)
No. That is UNIX with GUI front end, of which there are many around. The
Mac OS never had UNIX behind it. One of the fellas who founded Apple
branched off brought out an OS that was just like that. Great but never
caught on at the time.
Errr... yes. Isn't that what I said? For the hard of thinking, I'll
repeat it: "for me it's the ideal combination of Unix backend and easy
to use GUI frontend" (actually it's not really UNIX till 10.5...)
What "UNIX" flavour do you suggest then oh wise one? Something as usable
as MacOS for the entire family and that requires no maintenance?
No actually, forget it. I can't be arsed
Are you being obtuse (i.e. arguing a narrow definition of "UNIX"), or do
you not realise OSX is based on a NetBSD / Mach backend?
That would be Steve Jobs...
He started NeXT in about 1986 (IIRC) when the board / Scully booted him
out of Apple
That would be NEXTSTEP
Apple (under a new CEO) bought NeXT about ten years later and acquired
Jobs with it. He became CEO again after the board lost faith in the
You can get probably guess what technology OSX is based on...
Sorry about that DD. I'm just a sad Essex wanker who has no life
except fecking around on usenet all day, like you.
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