Have a Western Digital 1TB internal 3.5" HDD
Just stopped during use ....
Drive is under warranty so should get it replaced - but they won't
recover the data.
I had a backup .. but a months worth is missing .... (should backup more
than once a month I know)
On windows PC it is no longer seen, a friend connected it to a MAC and
it could be seen & scanned .. but he was unable to recover any files.
Anybody know of anyone that does data recovery as a sideline ?
Professional companies charge hundreds to do this.
In case someone suggests it - I have tried the freezer trick.
On Mon, 05 Sep 2016 22:37:26 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
I had a HDD fail big time. Basically it just stopped being recognised at
No amount of trying to mount on a linux system would work - whatever was
****ed prevented the system even seeing an event on startup.
It was one half of a raid array, so no harm done ...
I had that with a Seagate external HDD that I used for TV programme
Backup. It fell, and landed on my foot, didn't even crash to the floor,
but it was enough to totally destroy any communication. There's just
nothing there. It spins, but that's it.
Luckily, I had Backup backup. There is a label that says something
about not exceeding 3,000 G or whatever, it must have been more like 3
G, but it killed it.
If it fell on your foot from say a height of 4 ft, then when it hits
your foot it's already going at 16 feet per sec. Assume it then has to
stop within 1/2 inch, that gives:
0 = 16**2 + (2 x a x 1/24)
with a being the acceleration in feet per sec per sec. That gives:
a = -3072 or 3072/32 G = 96 G
What are those jobs rated at?
Lady Astor: "If you were my husband I'd give you poison." Churchill: "If
you were my wife, I'd drink it."
In this case, it was about 2 feet, at most, so travelling at
somewhat less than 16 fps.
The acceleration limit is written inside the case, on the drive itself,
and I'm not going to go in there again right now. But I see 350 G quoted
in an online discussion about this.
(Amazon.com product link shortened)
offers 1,000 Gs of non-operating shock, but it is a high-tolerance
Whatever it is, when this happened, it did not appear as a force that
would have been likely to have caused internal damage, and it was not
powered at the time. It is not as though it fell corner-first onto
concrete, it fell gently from my hand and landed on my foot, there was
no sound (apart from my swearing at having dropped it). If it had been
a coffee cup, it would not have shown any damage, it would have just
spilled the contents.
Yes, about 11, giving 48G. Actually, TBH, I'm surprised you were
unharmed. I had a stage weight land on my foot once, broke some toes.
OK - that's a lot heavier but it started at ground level and toppled
over. That was enough.
"Please stop telling us what you feel. Please stop telling us what your
intuition is. Your intuitive feelings are of no interest whatsoever,
I did that when it happened, and I didn't see anything obvious. But I
still have it, so one day I might give it another go. I've nothing to
lose. It might even be worth just jiggling any connectors I see.
Interestingly, I replaced it with a Samsung HDD, which turned out to
also be a Seagate unit. I take more care when handling it now, knowing
how sensitive they are.
If you really care about data, you have to have a plan to deal with 100%
irrevocable sudden loss of a disk.
My important data lives on many disks. They are not raided, because I
back up several machines onto one of the disks.
Three years ago that disk died. The backup oddly enough.
I bought a new one, stuck it in, and 24 hours later it was full up with
backups, and my ISP was warning me about overuse of my connection...
Then I bought a bigger main disk, stuck a new OS on that and restored
from backup onto it. an afternoons work and I was back in business.
"What do you think about Gay Marriage?"
On 06/09/2016 12:33, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Doing all your backups in The Cloud will be the way to go .........BT
gives free space (not enough for me), Amazon gives unlimited space for
£55 a year
I'm sure it will all become cheaper with competition.
so that when the cloud crashes all your data is completely lost, and
when the cloud gets hacked, all your details are now globally available
to any criminal who is prepared top pay for them.
FFS you can have a complete VPS for 55 quid a year.
A second drive costs about 55 quid and lasts 5 years.
"Anyone who believes that the laws of physics are mere social
conventions is invited to try transgressing those conventions from the
Nope. I have a cloud, but its MY cloud.
Cost me a £120 a year roughly.
Alone, I am not a sufficiently interesting target, and I dont store any
private data on it.
That's all here split across several disk drives.
AND I run my own spam blacklists...I reject about 80 spammails a day.
For half a dozen that get through into my spam mailbox, and about one a
say that shows up in my inbox.
Future generations will wonder in bemused amazement that the early
twenty-first century’s developed world went into hysterical panic over a
TBH neither can I. the spams aren't a risk, they are simply a nuisance.
Unfortunately I have an email address that's been on the 'net since the
early 1990s, and am a prolific correspondent as well as having various
online accounts with various things that appear to have been hacked for
emails at some point.
And as for marketing. I dont think there is a single time I have been
asked for my email address online that hasn't resulted in a deluge of
vaguely related spam.
But I have the main spam engines on my blascklist now. It runs to over
About 50/50 split between well known and perfecly legal spam generators,
and spam bots which are blocked by IP address with spamhaus.
A sprinkling of guesses@mydomains and a few desperate attempts to use me
as a relay complete the score.
I used to run a small ISP. I dont trust anyone else to do it better.,
If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will
eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such
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