OT National Trust Properties with Slave trade links.

all paid for by those dastardly capitalist industrialists creating employment and generating wealth for multitudes previously existing at a subsistence living tending their (or more likely their landlords) plot of land. The bastards!

There ya go. *You* are allowed *your* fun. Now everyone else should have

At the behest of the Jews IIRC.

You really shouldn?t believe the sanitised version. The Romans executed him because he was a threat to their authority. The Jews were subjugated. He was a rebel. All of the miracle stuff came later added to attract the gullible. The Romans executed him but had a PR nightmare when they converted to Christianity. Fortunately they ran the show and simply rewrote history. The bit about the Governor giving the people a choice who he would pardon was a master stroke of rewriting history.

I was allowed to light the fireworks and found that bit (the practical involvement) 'fun', yes?

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That's interesting ...

I'm sure it did from what what I know of you from here. Not sure what that's got to do with anything though?

So still irrelevant to what I said then?

Good for you (so do I).

Don't need to mate.

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Sorry, did you have a point?

Cheers, T i m

We're talking semantics here, aren't we? The people in the area are generally taken to be of Jewish religion and Jewish ethnicity with instruction from religious leaders to choose Jesus as the one to die.

My post wasn't intended to be a slur on anyone, or any group.

Your posts intimates an element of guilt in order to feel obliged to respond.

Do you feel the need to protect your guilty ancestors? Perhaps we should honour Edward Colston all the more as he's white, one of 'us'?

You don't come across as a happy person. You come across as a fanatic.

I doubt the sanitised version featured Jewish Priests complaining of "unfair competition" somehow. That was more my own Larry David version,

And presumably the Romans rewrote the Gospels and St Pauls Epistles as well?

Matthew 22:21 Jesus said "Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's; and to God the things that are God's." [Paul to] Romans 13:1 "Let every person be in subjection to the governing authorities.

There was a touching story about human gullibility in the news the other day.

There's was is chap in Russia claiming to be the new Christ. Complete with long hair and beard. Just like in that fake Leonardo that the Arabs bough for squillions, realised their mistake, and have now hidden away.

Except that the only "evidence" that Christ ever had long hair and a beard emerged in the 4th century, and was the standard Byzantine representation of an Emperor .

michael adams

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Like statistics, you don't have a clue about tolerance.

Are you Tim's sock?

But the Romans were the ones in charge. Crucifixion was their method of execution. Their soldiers stood guard over the execution, etc. They didn't have to execute him if they didn't want to.

Jesus was a thorn in the side of the religious establishment, I agree, but I thought it was a popular vote that Jesus should be the one chosen? Not my area of expertise at all, I'm afraid, so pardon my ignorance.

My Roman ancestors? No, I'm afraid that I rather admitted guilt on their behalf.

He was left in peace to carry on for decades, until recently there was some dispute with local business interests, when suddenly the authorities became interested in him.

The industrial revolution must have been a dreadful time for some. As a skilled hand weaver, you just couldn't make a living competing with a water or steam powered machine. So, you were forced to come into the town and take up whatever employment was available, however hazardous and however low the wage.

Yes, by the people. So at the very least a joint choice and execution.

I sense a deflection and denial.

Now where have we seen that before, eg Fredxx ... ?

Cheers, T i m

I guess it might depend on what you expect me to be tolerant of?

Cheers, T i m

Please do tell.

I have nothing against veganism.

What I object to is attempts by fanatics to forced me into not eating meat.

To you, no, why would I?

And you come across as a selfish animal killer, admitting to killing them to pleasure your taste buds?

Cheers, T i m

You are obviously both confused and petrified so of course you will try and lash out at anyone who you think is going to stop you doing

Be that setting fire to millions of pounds worth of fireworks to 'celebrate' the failed attempt of someone who wanted to blow up the houses of parliament (and a good job we aren't doing that will all the failed / foiled attempts of terrorism these days eh), rather than putting it into a hospice or hospital to the cognitive dissonance, the logical inconsistency you are struggling with within re why you wouldn't kill a dog to eat but would kill a lamb, just to experience the pleasure of how they taste.