OT Fuel shortages/yellowhammer????

Does that mean gas/electricity cuts? Well I shall be OK in my passive house plus I have a woodburner stove with hotplate. I have a huge pile of firewood. Might be an idea to stock up with imperishable food though. And for people with CH and no fireplace, some sort of portable gas stove. Act now, there could be a rush on.

Or is it all bollix?

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harry
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It's all bollocks, it's a worst case scenario dreamed up by remainer civil servants.

Reply to
Tim Streater

Only if they *really* screw things up big time. Which is possible.

Have already started. There will almost certainly be shortages caused by panic buying even if for no other reason.

I expect a no deal Brexit to gridlock parts of the SE especially around the main coastal ports like Dover and Southampton. Lean inventory stock distribution systems will almost certainly break down and then they will be airlifting time critical stuff in for quite while after Halloween.

Warehouses are already chock full of Xmas goods so you couldn't choose a more effective date to maximise Brexit self inflicted harm than 31/10.

Fresh fruit and vegetables are the most likely things to go short supply and suffer a huge price hike. I have plenty of spuds and carrots in the ground and there is no shortage of rabbits where I live...

Hopefully this time they have bought in airfreight from experienced players who actually have aircraft and somewhere to land them and ferries from someone with real physical ships and a suitable docks.

Brexit will be used as a fantastic case study in poor negotiation and incompetent management for decades into the future. They still don't have a clue what the hell they want - only what they do *not* want.

Strongly unstable government with a working majority of one. ROFL

Brexit means BALLSUP!

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Martin Brown
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The bizarre thing is al the fanatic Brexiteers do is tell us 'everything will be fine', but without highlighting the 'in their personal (and obviously biased) opinion'.

What they don't actually have is much in the way of real evidence or proof that things actually *will* be fine.

It's still very much giving up our (the majority of the EC electorate) cow for their (a minority of the UK electorate) magic beans.

I wonder what part of 'a bird in the hand' don't they get?

Out of the frying pan that we had some control over and into the fire that we don't it is then (best case 'may be', especially with a no deal).

Cheers, T i m

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T i m

Tim old chap: if you are managing _any_ project, whether it's installing a new tap in the kitchen, or organising your country to leave the EU, you _have_ to imagine a worst case scenario, before you start.

Of course, if this worst case scenario makes you a bit nervous, you can call it "Project Fear", or even "fake news!"

Cheers John

Reply to
Another John

Of course. And having done that you assign a probability to it. Not having done such an assignment, you don't then start talking about it as if that probability were 1.0.

Geddit?

Reply to
Tim Streater

You can't have met as many project managers as I have. When it was all the fashion, I was one myself.

Reply to
newshound

That goes for all parties unless the actual evidence is or can be shown.

and there's little evidence that continuing with austerity would make everything fine.

Perhaps it';s the bit in the bible where someone gives money to 2 brothers, one buries the money so he wonlt lose it and the other uses it to invest.

So sometimes taking a risk is a good idea. But I can't think of any fancy proverb.

I now some, to many cooks spoil the broth and many hands make light work.

So when someones proves their point by coming out with some 15th century proverb maybe their knowledge should be updated.

Which is healthier frying or BBQ . I'm more likely to grill or use a microwave depending on product.

Reply to
whisky-dave

If I can't get my chemo because of brexiteers I will need a pointy stick to go hunting. I won't have anything to lose.

Reply to
dennis

You don't *have* to do that. But starting from where we are now you might as well since there isn't sufficient time to implement the systems or software to do whatever it is they haven't yet decided to do.

The Northern Ireland border will be policed by psychic leprechauns with Xray vision on supersonic flying pigs or more likely not at all.

My experience as a project manager is that the projects that most often end in catastrophe invariably involve wildly optimistic schedules, assumptions about new magic silver bullet technologies and spending money like crazy trying to hit unrealistic deadlines. The other killer is starting to implement something before the specification is ready.

Classic mantra of project management: On time, on budget, on spec. Pick any two and there is a good chance that you will not be disappointed. OTOH you do need to agree a specification first!

Boris is like "Tigger" in Winnie the Pooh. Thank God there is only one!

Reply to
Martin Brown

Ah so a 1% chance that you will kill 500 patients would be OK to you?

Would a 0.1% chance that you kill 10 be better for you?

What probability do you think is acceptable when lives are on the line?

Reply to
dennis

No, I haven't stopped beating my wife.

But you could stop talking bollocks.

Reply to
Tim Streater

Surely a %age chance is just that a percentage no need to quote figures of kills.

Of course it is better to kill zero patients, so perhaps don't become a doctor but choose to work as an administrator.

That would depend on whose lives you're talking about. Farm workers are far more likely to be killed at work than a racing car driver or a solicitor but who earns the most could be key. ?

Reply to
whisky-dave

So you think there will be no serious consequences so won't do any contingency measures then.

I just hope that if something does happen they ban you from using the contingency.

Reply to
dennis

The clueless ones are really on form today.

Reply to
Tim Streater

Its mostly crap. After all companies want to make money, it may cost more but I suspect that power will be about. I'm all Electric so it had better be. Brian

Reply to
Brian Gaff

Since when have you ever been on form? Its no good claiming to be today as nobody believes you.

Reply to
dennis

It will be crap after Halloween - that much is certain. How crap Brexit will be is still an open question.

I suggest you buy a generator and/or paraffin heater PDQ in that case.

Reply to
Martin Brown

If I can't get my levodopa I might not be able to make a pointy stick and go hunting...

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Dave Liquorice

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