2) Gilets Jaunes protests approach a year of protests. Tear gas and water cannon in action in Nantes (along with beatings of protesters, obvs).
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2) Gilets Jaunes protests approach a year of protests. Tear gas and water cannon in action in Nantes (along with beatings of protesters, obvs).
For certain values of 'empire'. He probably didn't realise the emotive overtones of the word, particularly not as he used India as an example of one of the 'empires' he was describing.
His essential message was that nations and peoples should work together towards a common goal, which is what the EU and its predecessors have always been about.
Bless!
The complete opposite. The EU started as a communist inspired protection racket for European iron coal and steel industries.
It has ruthelessly *used* the politics of socialism to undermine member states, has corrupted their politician and enslaved theor peoples.
Do you believe in the tooth fairy as well?
If they were going to build an empire they would jump on news outlets and stop anyone reporting bad things, so I think we are a way off that yet. The whole project has in fact become so big its unmanageable, that is the underlying problem. Brian
I'd suggest you look rather carefully at the US. That bastion against any form of socialism. You'd be dead because you couldn't afford the medical bills.
But at least you'd have died for your principles.
On the contrary, the European Coal and Steel Community was founded despite strong opposition from the Communists.
Winston Churchill called for a United States of Europe in 1946. The ECSC, was proposed by Robert Schuman, a French Christian Democrat, who worked closely with Karl Arnold, a German Christian Democrat. The whole idea of a united Europe has its roots in Conservatism.
But those that can have allowed US companies to develop and market fantastic bio/medical products that the NHS is 100% reliant upon (but sod the cost, just add it to the national debt for future generations to pay off).
I have kept Andrew Marrs programs 'The History of Britain' on my Humax PVR, where the Labour government at the time was considering joining the common market, but the chancellor said 'We cannot join, the miners would never allow it'.
It does show Turnip's crystal ball doesn't work in either direction. ;-)
Bollocks
More bollocks
The common goal being what?
And such working needn't oblige them to be members of an unaccountable oligarchy.
Another good example of TNP's discussion techniques.
If he doesn't see something the way it happened, it's bollox.
But then we know denial of fact is a classic fanatic Brexiteer weakness.
Cheers, T i m
A matter of historical record. The communists were strongly entrenched in the French coal and steel industries, which were less efficient than their German counterparts. They, therefore, opposed the ECSC on the grounds that it would lead to extensive job losses. The Soviet Union also encouraged resistance to it, as they didn't want anything that strengthened the West.
I am sorry that the history is not to your liking. However, denying it won't change the facts.
Wrong again Rodders, if you knew anything at all about the EU, you would know exactly what the plan was.
AB
That?s a pig ignorant lie with the USPS and the the Army Corps of Engineers alone.
Another pig ignorant lie. Any hospital that gets any federal funding at all, an that?s all of them, have to treat life threatening medical problems even if you can't pay for that treatment.
They also have Medicare for those who use the most medical services.
That?s flagrantly dishonest.
Rubbish
I didn't say that communists didn't jump on the band wagon, once it got rolling. I said that the idea of a united Europe has its roots in Conservatism. You can't get a lot more Conservative than Winston Churchill:
No, it has iuts roots in Spinellits vision, a communist
Who said while it might sort mainland Europe out it was not suitable for the UK.
He brought a different viewpoint to it, but it was Conservatives who started the ball rolling with the ECSC.
We still joined the Council of Europe, which came out of his idea.
A very different enitity that we founded and can leave whenever we want
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