OT: From Twitter today

"Austria abstains on a UN pact on migration.

You may think they?re right. You may think they?re wrong. But they?re a sovereign state, entitled to their own decision, right?

Wrong, says Juncker: ?unacceptable? for the EU not to speak with one voice.

See where the EU is going..?"

One is minded to wonder WTF Juncker thinks he is.

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Tim Streater
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On 13:17 2 Nov 2018, Tim Streater wrote in news:021120181317297742% snipped-for-privacy@greenbee.net:

The Global Compact was negotiated over two years and the draft was approved by all UN member states (except the US).

Now Austria gets cold feet but Juncker is cautious that any EU representation may not reflect the view of all members. Very reasonable.

Today's tip: don't get your news and views from Twitter.

Reply to
Pamela

Not is going. Is.

EU peeps want to see Europoe as a set of Rgeions where 'national goernments' are just like local councils. Pat them on the head and clap but no real power

Does he think?

Reply to
The Natural Philosopher

Did you complain to your MEP?

Maybe they would be too embarrassed to bring that topic up?

Like every other whinger all you can do is complain, and like every other whinger all you can do is bemoan your lot in life and look on with envy wondering why others seem to have such an advantage.

There are a lot of Brexit MEP's doing damn all for the UK. I suppose you voted for one eh knuckledragger?

In the UK if I was not happy with something I did complain to my counci and to my MP. I never did just sit there passively whinging to anyone that would listen.

I never once needed to act on an EU directive, some were a minor annoyance, but on the whole I gained Immeasurably and indeed still am receiving the benefits, as are you.

One has one minor irritation with the Irish governments approach to one law that affects me, it's minor and I will certainly not waste time whingeing and moaning because someone else gets a slight advantage. It's a problem for the future!

'Troublewith you Brit's is you do not appreciate things until they are gone.

Roll on November :-)

AB

Reply to
Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp

Not any longer, and never if you are female.

And a nice fat public service/EU final salary pension, like the entire bloody Kinnock family.

Steven and his Danish wife even claimed the huge tax benefits because she married a 'foreigner'

Reply to
Andrew

At least we are in agreement over one topic.

An EU border outside the island of Ireland would be a very positive outcome.

Ireland would have a few problems, but as a nation we are resilliant, progressive and as the last decade has shown we rise to challenge and come out a lot stronger and a lot more united.

A truly wonderful country, the best buy I ever made was my 70 odd Euro Irish passport.

At leas Farage didn't get one of those, Germany can keep it's dross :-)

AB

Reply to
Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp

roll on a hard border in the Celtic/Irish sea.

No more 'travellers' swanning into the UK with their EU passports.

Reply to
Andrew

Quite true :-)

A lot of the "travellers" are actually displaced families who lost their land to the English.

They used to be "tinkers", indeed I remember them in the 60's, they would repair pots & pans.

They have a certain "attitude", that isn't overly pleasant, but I would imagine a nomadic lifestyle in the modern world needs a few very thick skinned practicioners to make a success of it.

AB

Reply to
Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp

Aren't most 'travellers' of Irish origin? They will still have freedom of travel from Ireland to the UK under an agreement made between the two countries in the 1930s.

Reply to
alan_m

Really? Be interesting to see your proof of that. Given so many other parts of the UK haven't done well for ages. Whereas Eire has.

Reply to
Dave Plowman (News)

Twitter?! ROTFPMSL! Isn't that a kid's game or something? Use real websites.

Reply to
Commander Kinsey

3) Verhofstadt comes clean part 2: he admits that the WA was specifically drawn up to punish the U.K. as they are extremely worried about competition from a near neighbour. "The @Europarl_EN will never accept the UK can have all the advantage of free trade, and not aligning with our ecological, health & social standards. We are not stupid! We will not kill our own companies, economy, single market. We will never accept ?Singapore by the North Sea?!"
Reply to
Tim Streater

IOW, Verhofstadt has recognised the real objective of the people Streater is proud to represent - to turn this country into another Singapore

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Freedom House ranks Singapore as "partly free" in its Freedom in the World report, [134] and The Economist ranks Singapore as a "flawed democracy", the second best rank of four, in its "Democracy Index".[136][137] The latest elections were in September 2015, with the People's Action Party (PAP) winning 83 of 89 seats contested with 70% of the popular vote

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The ruling party won 83 out of 89 seats ! Not quite Iron Curtain style democracy but coming pretty close.

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The legal system of Singapore is based on English common law, but with substantial local differences. Trial by jury was abolished in 1970 so that judicial decisions would rest entirely in the hands of appointed judges.

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"Appointed judges!. I'll bet Boris and Moggy simply can't wait to get started !

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There is Capital punishment in Singapore for murder, as well as for certain aggravated drug-trafficking and firearms offences.[142]

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"Capital Punishment ! " What's not to like ? There's an election winner right there !

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In 2018, Singapore was ranked 151st out of 180 nations by Reporters Without Borders in the Worldwide Press Freedom Index.[199] Historically, the government has restricted freedom of speech and freedom of the press and has limited some civiland political rights

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Seems they haven't yet got round to closing down Parliament at a whim.

Or maybe they haven't sunk that low.

Presumably much of the above conflicts with the standards which Verhofstadt is referring to.

michael adams

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Reply to
michael adams

That says it all, rules, standards, specifications. What are they, German?

Reply to
Commander Kinsey

I take it that would be your ideal? Turn the UK into another Singapore?

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Good to see your true colours.

Reply to
Dave Plowman (News)

That's a pretty one eyed view. Most modern first would countries have the govt providing handouts to families, if only as child payments and different taxation arrangements for those with kids.;

And they don't bother to even mention the vast amounts of govt housing there.

And plenty of EU countries would love to have a 5% unemployment rate for their under 30s

And I lived there for a number of years in the 50s, they have come a hell of a long way since then.

Reply to
jeikppkywk

Better standard of living that we have, generally. And it obviously worries the EU, so it must be good.

Reply to
Tim Streater

Depends on how you measure standard of living. Far more live in massive blocks of flats than in the UK.

Reply to
jeikppkywk

Can I just check. Leaving the EU is all about the standard of living for most in the UK, then? Don't most brexiteers on here say they'd be very happy to take a large hit on their standard of living to regain 'control'?

No surprise there. You right wingers are all about removing any forms of employment standards in the quest for profit.

Reply to
Dave Plowman (News)

Only one person has said that and he didn?t say it was about control.

Most don?t believe the project fear lie that there will be a large hit on their standard of living and there wont be, you watch.

<rest of your flagrant dishonesty flushed where it belongs>
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jeikppkywk

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