That may well be the case, but after one of the various changes in responsibility for the reading and upkeep of meters, those then in charge made an across the board decision to remove all electronic gas meters previously installed. The guy who did mine was under the impression it was because of battery issues.
Chris
Please tell us where you learnt that smart meters do bill for imaginary power.
UK Power Networks (in the document I've already cited) last year stated:
"Domestic customers have historically been billed only for their real power consumption where whole current metering is used. Customers using CT metering have been billed for reactive power where their consumption is excessive; typically in excess of 33% of their active units; representing a power factor of 0.95.
It isn?t proposed to start charging domestic customers for their reactive energy consumption ? this would reflect a significant change in existing charging methodologies. However, by gaining visibility of domestic customers reactive energy consumption, we could start to target installations with DNO-supplied solutions or education on how to improve power factor."
Were they lying? Or has something changed since then?
What if you have different suppliers for gas and electric? What about the consumer wanting to know the instant gas consumption?
I didn't think suppliers of single-fuel tariffs provided smart meters?
The readings on a smart electric meter are every few seconds, but on a smart gas meter only once per half-hour.
Seems that SMETS2 will address that by separating the communications hub out from the electricity meter ...
My main objection is the way they imply they will save you money, when any saving would only come by changing your usage, which you could do anyway.
Which does explain why they aren't touted as a solution to save water or gas.
All the plugging I have seen for smart meters is they *save* electricity which can only be done by using less.
snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com laid this down on his screen :
Under special/ abnormal circumstances. No meter could possibly be designed to measure all types of consumption with absolute accuracy, rather they are designed for the usual mix of load types, they can expect to come across out in the field. Test them exclusively with a weird, specially chosen load, then expect weird consumption bills.
I could do a door to door survey, but that would be rather pointless, I know without the survey that I have lots of equipment generating weird waveforms.
My bills are what really matter, the crux of the argument. You suggest the meters over charge (money/bills), I have seen no evidence of this at all and I have had several SM's in the past four years.
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There's also the huge additional payload of demand-side switching to avoid investing in infrastructure and ability to remotely disconnect users for when the proles need teaching a lesson. Admittedly not techincal reasons, but reasons enough.
Yes, I also think that those that have them should pay the additional cost of installing and running them.
What pf would you expect an induction hob to have?
Nothing new-fangled about heat pumps. See here:
No they don't you can get a single chip that does it.
You are just making stuff up.
Just because a smart can measure apparent power doesn't mean that the supplier can use it. It would be illegal under the current consumer laws even if its allowed on commercial premises.
Brexiteers will make stuff up about anything even if its nothing to do with brexit.
They aren't that special, I have a DC clamp meter that only cost about £26.
Mine is battery powered and talks to the electricity meter. The electricity meter has the connections for the display and the mobile network.
You're lucky - mine's just been read and the frost pad (the old 'block' was much easier to manipulate) was on edge, so 'must be replaced' means 'can't be arsed'. The way taht this 'Summer' is going, a hard frost wouldn't surprise me!
Exactly what I did. I considered Bulb, but So Energy were comparable, and offered a 12 month fixed price.
And they camn make a smart meter a condition of the attractive tariffs.
And from next January, they will be a condition of the new smart export guarantee tariffs
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