;-)
More cars and people in the same space?
I wonder how bad (congestion / parking) things have to get before the ability to have something that takes up more space on the road (and parking) is made to pay their full share and / or people look to buying smaller cars or using alternatives?
Cheers, T i m
It's the shape people prefer rather than what comes out of a wind tunnel. BTW a large number of Evoques now on the road are 2 wheel drive.
>In article <XnsAD058FF8970BEJohPnowherecom@81.171.92.236>, JohnP snipped-for-privacy@nowhere.com writes
Now that I do agree with. Even when they stop for me. You've automatically gone into "wait for them" mode then the idiot goes and stops to wave you through for no good reason. I WAS HAPPY TO WAIT A FEW SECONDS YOU NUMPTY.
Whilst we're having a moan, people who instantly stop when they see or hear blue lights rather than assessing the situation and timing pulling in as appropriate as the emergency vehicle approaches.
In article snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com, T i m snipped-for-privacy@spaced.me.uk> writes
4X4s or SUVs if you prefer don't all have the largest footprint. Take a look at something like a Mondeo for example. You could start with cyclists of course. They pay f*ck all.
All the time on the motorways. Driving to close in front of the vehicle behind.
In article snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com, T i m snipped-for-privacy@spaced.me.uk> writes
You should get a job as a PCSO round here. It's all they f****ng do all day.
In article snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com, T i m snipped-for-privacy@spaced.me.uk> writes
Jesus, you should get a life.
nightjar snipped-for-privacy@bignell.me.uk> wrote in news:2NSdncWxJbv2S snipped-for-privacy@giganews.com:
Exactly the situation I mean.
ces of their selfish actions and have added
Spot on - likewise the "flasher" who waves a car out of a side turn - oblivious to what is coming the other way. Just wanting a "nice" credit.
bert snipped-for-privacy@bert.bert.com> wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@ghcq.uk:
Agreed - or risks their tyres and tracking by bumping up the kerb.
The driver that flashes and waves me out is a danger. I will decide when it is save as usually that driver hasn't assessed to total situation. I once got hit by a car that came out of a junction - because a car flashed and waved him out - but I was turning in!
The weekend before last it was a cyclist - who kept waving me past, despite it being a fairly narrow country road, close to a bend, with no idea what might be coming the other way.
It is dangerous as most people will subliminally feel obliged to comply with gratitude. I never wave anyone out. There are times when I may obviously lift my hands off the steering wheel to signify I am not going to move.
I feel that a crawling queue should be like a train! Coupled wagons. Others can join at the back end - or reconsider the validity of the rat run if that is what they were doing.
Near me is a road that avoids a set of traffic lights. To use it the driver has to cross a double lane on a dual carriageway, negotiate parked cars and a speed bump and then wait to get out at the other end. Lo and behold though - someone will stop and let him out.
Well, I don't know how many people do it for that reason (unless they know them possibly), rather than they just aren't seeing the bigger picture?
I really believe many people turn off their brain as they turn on their car engine.
Or they change character, pushing into queues in a way they wouldn't dare to if on foot.
On the road-space one, another thing that get's me are people parking in bays that are beside / parallel to the road where they don't park right close to the end (meaning a bay can now only take 2 not 3 cars). Similarly, parking 7/8ths of a cars length from a car that's obviously at the end of any parking space (like on the road beside an access road) when the front car can just drive out so you only need to leave enough space to get out yourself assuming someone parks close behind you or the person in front needs to get access to the rear of their vehicle (like an estate to get dogs back in after a walk etc).
I often give them the benefit of the doubt and assume there may have been a motorcycle or longer vehicle parked there but the chances are there wasn't (as I've sometimes seen them parking).
Cheers, T i m
Is there any chance they could hear there was nothing coming, or see over the top of stuff?
Cheers, T i m
I was driving along a single-track road with passing places, following a cyclist. Whenever we got to a passing place where it *might* be safe for me to overtake, he moved out into the middle of the road, preventing me overtaking. But when we were in a single section, approaching a bend, he signalled furiously, waving me past. He did this several times: it was not just a fluke. Either he *wanted* me to force him into the verge and then hit an oncoming car that appeared from round the bend, or else he had no traffic sense at all.
He seemed to be getting more and more irate that I wouldn't overtake, but he wasn't letting me do so at the places where it was safe. On one occasion I could see the top of a red Royal Mail van over the wall around the bend, so I *knew* it wasn't safe. From his higher vantage point he should have had an even better view of it and known not to beckon me on.
I think some of the problem is the "performance cyclists" who want to ride as fast as their stamina and the gradient will let them, and who aren't prepared to let any other traffic past. When I'm cycling, especially on a narrow country lane, I try to be aware of whether there's anything behind me, and will always pull into a farm gateway. The "point ahead and then left" gesture seems to convey very well my intention that I'll keep going until I get to the gateway that I can see ahead, and then I'll pull over.
As a car driver I will occasionally want to drive slower than I sense cars behind me want to (if I'm looking for an address, or I want to admire the view) and I will find somewhere to pull over, rather than just driving slowly and making them wait. I once had a problem with my car (turbo hose hadn't been properly re-attached by garage, so car was running with no turbo assistance) which meant my car could only get up to about 40 mph, and slowed to about 20 on even gentle hills. I drove home very carefully, looking for pulling-over spots and ready to let normal-speed traffic get past. (I played merry hell with the garage for returning my car in the state that they did, after rectifying an early problem. I booked it in for the loss-of-power problem to be investigated, not relishing the drive there, but something made me check for loose hoses, and found the hose to the turbo was hanging off. It took a minute or so to tighten the jubilee clip and normal service was restored. So I rang to cancel, and reported the problem to the service manager who gave me my next service or MOT for free. I hadn't realised just how much a turbo-diesel *needs* the turbo - evidently a normally-aspirated
1.6 is pretty puny!)
Should they expect you to believe them?
Bigger cars (and more of them) in the same space.
If we all still drove BMC minis, Hillman imps and Bond bugs the increased number of cars would be less of a problem.
This is often an issue when you have anything past a junction or access where you may have two lanes that merge into one ahead (where there may be as you say, a railway crossing).
The first car pulls up in the left lane (as the right lane is the one that disappears).
The next car pulls up behind the first (unless it's a white van / SUV / 4X4 / Merc / BMW or Audi etc). ;-)
The third car, if they aren't 'local' (or any of the above) might also pull up behind the others but now the tail end of this queue is getting closer to the entrance of a petrol station or a roundabout / junction etc.
So, the locals know to fill both lanes (alternating) but any non locals get pissed off because they see the people coming down the outside as queue jumping?
It is queue jumping IMHO when you overtake a slowing queue approaching a well marked (in advanced) roadwork's on a dual carriageway because the filtering at the pinch point is more difficult for many to manage than a pre configured single line (especially those who overtake the entire queue then try to force themselves in last second).
I loved it the other day when the M25 was blocked off and we were all having to take an exit by the overhead gantries. Those who didn't feel they should join the end of the queue and carried on down the outside, hoping to force their way in at the last second were being filtered off and 'done' by a batch of Policemen (for traveling some distance past a 'blocked' lane marker). ;-)
Cheers, T i m
Or Brighton where people turning right simply drive half way across (forcing cars to come to halt) expecting that the stream cars in the other direction will stop/slow and allow him in.
No, not at all as that wasn't my point, I was just suggesting that it may be able to judge that 'nothing was coming.
Cheers, T i m
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