Some finks have decided they want to build a wind turbine in the next
village. As I'm passionately opposed to these things in general and this
one in particular I offered to help. They asked if I could set up a
website like this one:
I agreed to try which is why I'm here. I regard myself as computer
capable but I've never set up a website nor do I understand Facebook or
Simply copying the above site (for a village 8 miles away) to a new URL
and editing it would do if that's possible.
I need help urgently because as a result of skulduggery and ineptitude
we only have two weeks to object.
Any help would be most gratefully received.
Talking to the webmaster at the URL you pointed at would be a start.
It would be very impolite to clone his site without asking permission.
Who knows he might offer you hosting for a nominal sum in which case
all you would need would be your own URL.
Your site won't get high enough on Google in the remaining two weeks so
I suggest you go for letters to the local paper and council as the first
priority. You probably want a tame teenager for Facebooking!
I am only against wind turbines when they are installed too close to
habitation or in regions with low windspeed to farm the grants.
Having looked at the site now - that one is pure nimbyism. That size of
turbine will only really annoy the owner if it is too near his house.
I'll declare an interest in that I have previously helped campaign
against some 10x 2MW that were destined to be installed very close to a
village and less than 200m from the schoolyard and with the village
downwind for prevailing so that it would get the full benefit of wing
tip vortex noise. It is quiet enough under turbines it is only where the
wind shear brings the noise into the ground that there is a problem.
I have nothing against wind power provided it is installed somewhere
that is suitably windy and the units are actually used. Nissan plant
keep 9/10 working whereas further down the A19 1/3 is typical.
Especially as he says on the site that he will be delighted to help
other campaigners looking to object to wind farm applications.
I am against them as they are an inefficient and expensive way to
generate electricity and are very wasteful of land. As I have said
before, I would much rather live near a nuclear power plant than near a
I am against them and because I have to subsidise the bloody things for
no benefit to myself. Just have a look at gridwatch today. I don't mind
paying for nukes because they will provide me with a reliable consistent
sustainable power supply.
On Thu, 6 Feb 2014 09:51:19 -0000, Brian_Gaff wrote:
Agreed, get as many independant letters, objections, questions etc as
possible into the relevant councilors, planning departments, MPs etc
as possible. Pointing people at website for more information; how to
object, who to object to, what to object to etc is useful but it's
only a resource not the main tool. Have outline form letters, not one
that people just need to print out and sign. 100 copies of the same
letter don't have as much impact as fewer individual letters. All the
points in a form letter can be dealt with in one hit, the variable
points and questions from individual letters tend to force them to
being dealt with individually. If people don't get satisfactory
answers they can follow up, a form letter can have a form response...
Use of Facebook, Twitter to raise the profile of the campagine and
the website for further info has value (for those that are on
Facebook/Twitter, but a lot of people aren't)
The wording of most petition statements I've seen normally lacks
precision and is more "knee jerk" and emotion, which weakens them
IMHO. A precisely aimed and worded one with lots of signatures might
have some value.
Also, if you are objecting, be aware that the local planners are only
allowed to consider objections based on *planning* considerations. They
are not allowed to consider letters that merely say "I don't like it".
There has to be a planning reason to object, e.g. it will contravene
the Local Plan.
Are the turbines going to spoil a beautiful view? Only relevant AFAIK
if that view has been designated an amenity of some sort in the Local
Plan. And that has already to be in place for that view, otherwise it's
Your District Council will have the Local Plan, if any.
But follow TNP's suggestion for best advice.
"The idea that Bill Gates has appeared like a knight in shining armour to
lead all customers out of a mire of technological chaos neatly ignores
One of the more novel approaches taken by UKIP councillors in Haverhill
was to claim that the proposed installation was NOT BUG ENOUGH to make
full use of the site.
Knowing full well that it was deliberately reduced to make best use of
the FIT scheme.
(in-ep-toc’-ra-cy) – a system of government where the least capable to
On Thu, 06 Feb 2014 08:22:23 +0000, Another Dave wrote:
Write to every local paper within 30 miles, your MP, your district
and county councillers and the leaders of said councils, the parish
council, any council planning department that maybe involved.
Object to the apparent two weeks notice and the procedures that have
not been followed not just the turbine. You do need to have done your
home work and researched carefully what applications/forms have or
haven't been completed. Pointing out that due procedure hasn't been
followed may well be more effective in the long term as it will put
up their costs. At this point it may well buy you more time.
Of course asking all the normal and awkward questions as well:
Flicker: No habitation the flicker zone at *any* time of day or year.
Ask for the maps, verify they are accurate.
Noise: Not weighted to the response of the human ear but flat from a
Hz up. That will require fight as "they" are of the opinion
noise you can't hear, can't hurt you. Infrasound isn't like
Wildlife: Lots of animals and birds are seasonal.
Ask for baseline surveys of the above and any others you can think
of, taken before construction starts. The noise one should be done
inside and out at every property within at least a couple of miles of
the proposed site under varying wind conditions (direction and
speed). They can't really object as to do so half admits there could
be a issue and they are not willing to shoot themselves in the foot.
The Wildlife one ought to take at least a year due to the seasonal
nature. See if there are any rare species nearby, newts, toads, bats
TBH I'd be some what surprised if you only have two weeks to object
to actual building permission, sure it's not a wind survey? Either
way object about any and everything, question everything they
produce, just make their life as hard and as difficult (thus costly)
On 06/02/2014 10:55, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
We know all about writing letters, "planning" reasons for objections,
contacting the press etc.
I'm not interested in people finding the web site by search engine; the
web address will be put on posters in the shop, the pubs and through
people's letter boxes so they can find the reasons to object and some
sample letters to download.
Although the notification letters started the clock they weren't
received until 6 days after the date on the letter nor was one sent to
the local parish council. We think this is grounds for objection.
The local Staffordshire Moorlands District councillor, on whose GREEN
BELT land the turbine is to be built, has not mentioned this to anybody
although she must have known about it for months and sees the parish
councillors at least once a month.
Last night a meeting was held. 140 people turned up even though it was
blowing a gale and raining; this was all that could be fitted into the
chapel. Fewer people would turn up if the end of the world was nigh.
Every household present should send a couple of letters.
An emergency meeting of the parish council is scheduled for next Tuesday.
In short, I still need advice on setting up a web site.
I know it sounds crude, but if you want an instant way of putting up a
page or two of info you could use Dropbox. It has a 'public' folder that
anyone can access, if you quote the URL (the 'address'). Here are two
A page in jpg format:
A page in Word format:
You can set Dropbox up very easily. If you don't want to do that, send
me the page or pages and I'll put them on Dropbox and give you the URL.
You could do it yourself very easily though.
If you want some thing cheap and cheerful then register a domain name at
123-reg and take their cheapest beginners hosting package.
Hack whatever you need together in Word (or better the free Wysiwyg Web
Editor BlueGriffin) as a front page and link the docs you want online.
Upload them, test it for link capitalisation errors and you are done.
Facebook - ask any teenager (can be done almost instantly and free).
Encourage people to write their own freeform letters - identikit
boilerplate letters of complaint will get boilerplate replies.
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