OT: Any value in old drives

But how many waste their time doing that ? I certainly don't, I just decide that a new drive is so cheap that it isn't worth my time.

And I record to the one drive and just shift stuff off to a much bigger external drive when there isn't enough space on the drive I record to for the evening's recording.

I have had a couple of the external hard drives die.

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Rod Speed
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They ALWAYS have wear levelling applied

Wear levelling doesn't work like that.

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The Natural Philosopher

Yes it does. If the user uses it like that, with most of the drive filled with stuff hardly ever replaced, no wear levelling can do anything about the problem that only a tiny subset of the drive is repeatedly used.

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zall

But how many people just record so much crap and haven't got the time to watch it.

I use my PVR to record a limited number of programs and/or to timeshift to be able to skip adverts.

I may record a series but delete when watched, or find that after watching one episode that the rest is not worth the recording space and deleted immediately. my 1Tbyte HDD is never more than 30% full.

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alan_m

HDDs are funny things. Some go on & on & on, some don't. The oldest I have in service is just 60G - it'll get replaced when something needs doing, it's still going ok. Meanwhile 1&2T HDDs have failed.

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Animal

We tend to keep some series and films to watch again - possibly some years down the line.

Yes, we often delete series because the first episode really tuns us off.

Our 2TB HDD has only 16% free. I must move some over to the home server, which has much more space available.

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SteveW

alan_m snipped-for-privacy@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote

Thats what I do. And it isnt necessarily a silly thing to do. Our free to air broadcast TV in our summer has a real death of stuff that I choose to watch so in theory I can go back over what I didn't get around to watching in the previous year when I need something to watch.

In reality I never do end up watching everything I have recorded and I can't be bothered cleaning up the drive when it is so cheap to buy another when I need more space.

I record everything, only ever watch the election eve vote count live so I can watch it when it suits me and not when it is broadcast and so I can skip the ads, even on the govt channels we have. One of them has normal commercial ads and the other has ads for its own material they will broadcast.

I normally do, but not always with the best stuff. I hardly ever watch anything more than once but do with the best stuff like Foyles War and 7 Up etc.

I don't waste my time furiously cleaning up the drives that I have recorded broadcast TV on. I have more than a dozen

1-3TB drives and a 20TB external drive, the latest drive.
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Rod Speed

Some appear to wear our. Without having read this story, I don't think I would have bought those drives, from first principles. You'd have to be desperate to buy these, if you were at BackBlaze. The Seagate salesman would have told them that.

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These typically have better statistics.

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Drives have "resistance to the vibration of other drives" in a chassis. A WD Blue might have poor resistance, and have a low rating regarding number of neighbours. Some of the Enterprise drives, could allow 8 drives to be next to them. The Enterprise drives have additional actuators. In some cases, the working of these actuators introduces a "hum" related to the motor frequencies. The drive could be correcting for a repeated runout pattern.

Years ago, they tried to synchronize the spindles of the drives, with a cable from drive to drive. That was on SCSI drives. But I don't think that was a success, because they seemed to stop doing that.

Another question would be "how much damping does a drive require". I don't know the answer to that. Like, if you mount a drive on those silicon rubber bumpers, is that a good thing to do or a stupid thing ? Dunno. Some of the drives feature a subsonic "thump" on long seeks.

Paul

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Paul

All the USB3 enclosures that I have seen have a different connector so you should be able to tell, if this is the standard -

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wasbit

Hah, I should have just looked at the enclosures, where it's marked what they are. The connections are mostly USB 3.1 Gen 1, with a couple of USB 3.0.

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Tim Streater

USB 3.1 Gen 1 being "USB 3.0 in disguise" :-)

Thanks to usb.org , those are the same thing.

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Enclosures are assumed to have weak hard drives in them, not spiffy SATA SSD. And if the enclosure chip only runs 200MB/sec... shhh... don't tell anyone. Nothing says an enclosure chip has to work at 450MB/sec. I don't think I have anything here that works properly in that regard. Just 200-250MB/sec or so.

Paul

Reply to
Paul

Well - howls of derisive laughter.

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Tim Streater

To the OP.... Hows that list of drive makes and models coming along? :-)

S.

Reply to
SH

Indeed. I've been unwell the last few days. Today should be OK.

Reply to
Tim Streater

The report is some 900 lines long. You want it posted here?

There are 3 1TB drives, with no replaced sectors. There's 1 3TB drive, same. There's one 2TB drive which reports >400 DMA CRC errors, but DriveDx opines that this is probably the interface card/cable rather than the drive itself. There was another 1TB drive, but that reports 14 replaced sectors, so I've removed that one from consideration and will take it to the tip.

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Tim Streater

OK, whats the make and model and form factor size of the 5 remaining drives?

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SH

On 02 Oct 2022 at 16:18:49 BST, SH snipped-for-privacy@spam.com wrote:

3.5in 7200rpm. Make and model stuff is in the report, for each drive, but as I don't know exactly which bits of info you need for that it makes more sense for you to see the whole report:

Drives ======

1 TB ====

Drive 1

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### SYSTEM INFORMATION ### Report Timestamp : 2 October 2022 11:22:34 BST Report Timestamp (ISO 8601 format) : 2022-10-02T11:22:34

Application Name : DriveDx Application Version : 1.11.0.730 Application SubBuild : 0 Application Edition : Standalone Application Website :

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Knowledge Base Revision : 101/101

Computer Name : First Mini Host Name : First-Mini Computer Model : Macmini7,1

OS Boot Time : 2022-09-21T14:25:03 Time Since Boot : 10 days 20h 57m 31s OS Name : macOS OS Version : 10.14.6 OS Build : 18G9323 OS Kernel Version : Darwin 18.7.0

SAT SMART Driver Version : 0.10.1s ATA Command Support Tolerance : verypermissive N of drives in report : 1

### DRIVE 1 OF 1 ### Last Checked : 2 October 2022 11:22:15 BST Last Checked (ISO 8601 format) : 2022-10-02T11:22:15

Advanced SMART Status : OK Overall Health Rating : AVERAGE 52.8% Overall Performance Rating : AVERAGE 52.8% Issues found : 0

Serial Number : 27C10ENFS WWN Id : 5 000039 fedeabc89 Volumes : Untitled Device Path : /dev/disk4 Total Capacity : 1.0 TB (1,000,204,886,016 Bytes) Model Family : Toshiba P300 Model : TOSHIBA HDWD110 Form Factor : 3.5 inches Firmware Version : MS2OA8J0 Drive Type : HDD 7200 rpm

Power On Time : 36,901 hours (51 months 7 days 13 hours) Power Cycles Count : 37 Current Power Cycle Time : 261.0 hours

=== DEVICE CAPABILITIES === S.M.A.R.T. support enabled : yes DriveDx Active Diagnostic Config : Base config [hdd.default] Sector Logical Size : 512 Sector Physical Size : 4096 Physical Interconnect : USB Logical Protocol : USB Removable : yes Ejectable : no ATA Version : ATA8-ACS T13/1699-D revision 4 SATA Version : SATA 3.0, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s) I/O Path : IOService:/AppleACPIPlatformExpert/PCI0@0/AppleACPIPCI/XHC1@14/XHC1@14000000/ SSP1@14800000/miniStack@14800000/IOUSBHostInterface@0/IOUSBMassStorageInterfa ceNub/IOUSBMassStorageDriverNub/IOUSBMassStorageUASDriver/IOSCSITargetDevice/ IOSCSIHierarchicalLogicalUnit@0000000000000000/fi_dungeon_driver_IOSATDriver/ IOSATServices

Enclosure Vendor Id / Product Id : 0x1e91 / 0xa3a9 SAT Pass Through Mode : sat12 SAT SMART Driver Version : 0.10.1s SAT SMART Driver Bundle Id : fi.dungeon.driver.SATSMARTDriver SAT SMART Driver I/O Class : fi_dungeon_driver_IOSATDriver

Attributes Data Structure Revision : 16 SMART Command Transport (SCT) flags : 0x3d SCT Status supported : yes SCT Feature Control supported : yes SCT Data Table supported : yes Error logging capabilities : 0x1 Self-tests supported : yes Offline Data Collection capabilities : 0x5b Offline Data Collection status : 0x80 Auto Offline Data Collection flags : 0x1 [Known device ]: yes [Drive State Flags ]: 0x0

=== CURRENT POWER CYCLE STATISTICS === Time since computer startup : 260 hours Data Read : 31,145,984 bytes (31.1 MB) Data Written : 288,768 bytes (288.8 KB) Data Read/Write Ratio : 107.86 Data Read/hour : 119.4 KB/hour Data Write/hour : 1.1 KB/hour

Operations (Read) : 154 Read IOPS : 251 Operations (Write) : 16 Write IOPS : 26 Operations Read/Write Ratio : 10 Throughput per operation (Read) : 202.2 KB/Op Throughput per operation (Write) : 18.0 KB/Op

Latency Time (Read) : 0 ns Latency Time (Write) : 0 ns Retries (Read) : 0 Retries (Write) : 0 Errors (Read) : 0 Errors (Write) : 0

=== PROBLEMS SUMMARY === === IMPORTANT HEALTH INDICATORS === ID NAME RAW VALUE STATUS 5 Reallocated Sector Count 0

100% OK 197 Current Pending Sector Count 0 100% OK 198 Offline Uncorrectable Sector Count 0 100% OK 199 UDMA CRC Error Count 0 100% OK

=== TEMPERATURE INFORMATION (CELSIUS) === Current Temperature : 24 Power Cycle Min Temperature : 22 Power Cycle Max Temperature : 24 Lifetime Min Temperature : 18 Lifetime Max Temperature : 43 Recommended Min Temperature : 0 Recommended Max Temperature : 60 Temperature Min Limit : -40 Temperature Max Limit : 70

=== DRIVE HEALTH INDICATORS === ID | NAME | TYPE | UPDATE | RAW VALUE | VALUE | THRESHOLD | WORST | LAST MODIFIED | STATUS 1 Raw Read Error Rate Pre-fail online 0x0 100 16 100 - 100% OK 2 Throughput Performance Pre-fail offline 68 142 54 142 - 60.3% OK 3 Spin Up Time Pre-fail online 186 126 24 126 02/10/2022 11:20 58.0% OK 4 Start Stop Count Life-span online 42,740 90 0 90 02/10/2022 11:20 90.0% OK 5 Reallocated Sector Count Pre-fail online 0 100 5 100 - 100% OK 7 Seek Error Rate Pre-fail online 0x0 100 67 100 - 100% OK 8 Seek Time Performance Pre-fail offline 34 115 20 115 - 52.8% OK 9 Power On Hours Life-span online 36,901 95 0 95 29/09/2022 10:51 95.0% OK 10 Spin Retry Count Pre-fail online 0 100 60 100 - 100% OK 12 Power Cycle Count Life-span online 37 100 0 100 02/10/2022 11:20 100% OK 192 Power-Off Retract Count Life-span online 42,741 65 0 65 02/10/2022 11:20 65.0% OK 193 Load Cycle Count Life-span online 42,741 65 0 65 02/10/2022 11:20 65.0% OK 194 Temperature (Celsius) Life-span online 24 250 0 250 02/10/2022 11:22 100% OK 196 Reallocated Event Count Life-span online 0 100 0 100 - 100% OK 197 Current Pending Sector Count Life-span online 0 100 0 100 - 100% OK 198 Offline Uncorrectable Sector Count Life-span offline 0 100 0 100 - 100% OK 199 UDMA CRC Error Count Life-span online 0 200 0 200 - 100% OK

=== DRIVE ERROR LOG === error log is empty

=== DRIVE SELF-TEST LOG === self-test log is empty

Drive 2

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### SYSTEM INFORMATION ### Report Timestamp : 2 October 2022 11:41:45 BST Report Timestamp (ISO 8601 format) : 2022-10-02T11:41:45

Application Name : DriveDx Application Version : 1.11.0.730 Application SubBuild : 0 Application Edition : Standalone Application Website :

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Knowledge Base Revision : 101/101

Computer Name : First Mini Host Name : First-Mini Computer Model : Macmini7,1

OS Boot Time : 2022-09-21T14:25:03 Time Since Boot : 10 days 21h 16m 42s OS Name : macOS OS Version : 10.14.6 OS Build : 18G9323 OS Kernel Version : Darwin 18.7.0

SAT SMART Driver Version : 0.10.1s ATA Command Support Tolerance : verypermissive N of drives in report : 1

### DRIVE 1 OF 1 ### Last Checked : 2 October 2022 11:41:22 BST Last Checked (ISO 8601 format) : 2022-10-02T11:41:22

Advanced SMART Status : OK Overall Health Rating : AVERAGE 48.9% Overall Performance Rating : AVERAGE 48.9% Issues found : 0

Serial Number : 76TVWSPFS WWN Id : 5 000039 fe9f68062 Volumes : Untitled Device Path : /dev/disk4 Total Capacity : 1.0 TB (1,000,204,886,016 Bytes) Model Family : Toshiba 3.5" DT01ACA... Desktop HDD Model : TOSHIBA DT01ACA100 Form Factor : 3.5 inches Firmware Version : MS2OA750 Drive Type : HDD 7200 rpm

Power On Time : 32,625 hours (45 months 9 days 9 hours) Power Cycles Count : 42 Current Power Cycle Time : 261.3 hours

=== DEVICE CAPABILITIES === S.M.A.R.T. support enabled : yes DriveDx Active Diagnostic Config : Base config [hdd.default] Sector Logical Size : 512 Sector Physical Size : 4096 Physical Interconnect : USB Logical Protocol : USB Removable : yes Ejectable : no ATA Version : ATA8-ACS T13/1699-D revision 4 SATA Version : SATA 3.0, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s) I/O Path : IOService:/AppleACPIPlatformExpert/PCI0@0/AppleACPIPCI/XHC1@14/XHC1@14000000/ SSP1@14800000/miniStack@14800000/IOUSBHostInterface@0/IOUSBMassStorageInterfa ceNub/IOUSBMassStorageDriverNub/IOUSBMassStorageUASDriver/IOSCSITargetDevice/ IOSCSIHierarchicalLogicalUnit@0000000000000000/fi_dungeon_driver_IOSATDriver/ IOSATServices

Enclosure Vendor Id / Product Id : 0x1e91 / 0xa3a9 SAT Pass Through Mode : sat12 SAT SMART Driver Version : 0.10.1s SAT SMART Driver Bundle Id : fi.dungeon.driver.SATSMARTDriver SAT SMART Driver I/O Class : fi_dungeon_driver_IOSATDriver

Attributes Data Structure Revision : 16 SMART Command Transport (SCT) flags : 0x3d SCT Status supported : yes SCT Feature Control supported : yes SCT Data Table supported : yes Error logging capabilities : 0x1 Self-tests supported : yes Offline Data Collection capabilities : 0x5b Offline Data Collection status : 0x84 Auto Offline Data Collection flags : 0x1 [Known device ]: yes [Drive State Flags ]: 0x20

=== CURRENT POWER CYCLE STATISTICS === Time since computer startup : 261 hours Data Read : 31,145,984 bytes (31.1 MB) Data Written : 173,568 bytes (173.6 KB) Data Read/Write Ratio : 179.45 Data Read/hour : 119.2 KB/hour Data Write/hour : 664 B/hour

Operations (Read) : 154 Read IOPS : 461 Operations (Write) : 11 Write IOPS : 33 Operations Read/Write Ratio : 14 Throughput per operation (Read) : 202.2 KB/Op Throughput per operation (Write) : 15.8 KB/Op

Latency Time (Read) : 0 ns Latency Time (Write) : 0 ns Retries (Read) : 0 Retries (Write) : 0 Errors (Read) : 0 Errors (Write) : 0

=== PROBLEMS SUMMARY === === IMPORTANT HEALTH INDICATORS === ID NAME RAW VALUE STATUS 5 Reallocated Sector Count 0

100% OK 197 Current Pending Sector Count 0 100% OK 198 Offline Uncorrectable Sector Count 0 100% OK 199 UDMA CRC Error Count 0 100% OK

=== TEMPERATURE INFORMATION (CELSIUS) === Current Temperature : 21 Power Cycle Min Temperature : 20 Power Cycle Max Temperature : 21 Lifetime Min Temperature : 17 Lifetime Max Temperature : 42 Recommended Min Temperature : 0 Recommended Max Temperature : 60 Temperature Min Limit : -40 Temperature Max Limit : 70

=== DRIVE HEALTH INDICATORS === ID | NAME | TYPE | UPDATE | RAW VALUE | VALUE | THRESHOLD | WORST | LAST MODIFIED | STATUS 1 Raw Read Error Rate Pre-fail online 0x0 100 16 100 - 100% OK 2 Throughput Performance Pre-fail offline 70 142 54 142 02/10/2022 11:41 60.3% OK 3 Spin Up Time Pre-fail online 128 149 24 149 02/10/2022 11:41 71.0% OK 4 Start Stop Count Life-span online 61,832 85 0 85 02/10/2022 11:41 85.0% OK 5 Reallocated Sector Count Pre-fail online 0 100 5 100 - 100% OK 7 Seek Error Rate Pre-fail online 0x0 100 67 100 - 100% OK 8 Seek Time Performance Pre-fail offline 37 108 20 108 - 48.9% OK 9 Power On Hours Life-span online 32,625 96 0 96 02/10/2022 11:41 96.0% OK 10 Spin Retry Count Pre-fail online 0 100 60 100 - 100% OK 12 Power Cycle Count Life-span online 42 100 0 100 02/10/2022 11:41 100% OK 192 Power-Off Retract Count Life-span online 61,832 49 0 49 02/10/2022 11:41 49.0% OK 193 Load Cycle Count Life-span online 61,832 49 0 49 02/10/2022 11:41 49.0% OK 194 Temperature (Celsius) Life-span online 20 253 0 253 02/10/2022 11:41 100% OK 196 Reallocated Event Count Life-span online 0 100 0 100 - 100% OK 197 Current Pending Sector Count Life-span online 0 100 0 100 - 100% OK 198 Offline Uncorrectable Sector Count Life-span offline 0 100 0 100 - 100% OK 199 UDMA CRC Error Count Life-span online 0 200 0 200 - 100% OK

=== DRIVE ERROR LOG === error log is empty

=== DRIVE SELF-TEST LOG === # | LIFETIME (H) | TEST TYPE | PROGRESS | STATUS | LBA of 1st error

1 12286 Short offline 100% Completed without error -

Drive 3

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### SYSTEM INFORMATION ### Report Timestamp : 2 October 2022 11:49:10 BST Report Timestamp (ISO 8601 format) : 2022-10-02T11:49:10

Application Name : DriveDx Application Version : 1.11.0.730 Application SubBuild : 0 Application Edition : Standalone Application Website :

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Computer Name : First Mini Host Name : First-Mini Computer Model : Macmini7,1

OS Boot Time : 2022-09-21T14:25:03 Time Since Boot : 10 days 21h 24m 07s OS Name : macOS OS Version : 10.14.6 OS Build : 18G9323 OS Kernel Version : Darwin 18.7.0

SAT SMART Driver Version : 0.10.1s ATA Command Support Tolerance : verypermissive N of drives in report : 1

### DRIVE 1 OF 1 ### Last Checked : 2 October 2022 11:48:40 BST Last Checked (ISO 8601 format) : 2022-10-02T11:48:40

Advanced SMART Status : OK Overall Health Rating : AVERAGE 54.4% Overall Performance Rating : AVERAGE 54.4% Issues found : 0

Serial Number : 27C07TNFS WWN Id : 5 000039 fedea63c6 Volumes : Untitled Device Path : /dev/disk4 Total Capacity : 1.0 TB (1,000,204,886,016 Bytes) Model Family : Toshiba P300 Model : TOSHIBA HDWD110 Form Factor : 3.5 inches Firmware Version : MS2OA8J0 Drive Type : HDD 7200 rpm

Power On Time : 33,474 hours (46 months 14 days 18 hours) Power Cycles Count : 46 Current Power Cycle Time : 261.4 hours

=== DEVICE CAPABILITIES === S.M.A.R.T. support enabled : yes DriveDx Active Diagnostic Config : Base config [hdd.default] Sector Logical Size : 512 Sector Physical Size : 4096 Physical Interconnect : USB Logical Protocol : USB Removable : yes Ejectable : no ATA Version : ATA8-ACS T13/1699-D revision 4 SATA Version : SATA 3.0, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s) I/O Path : IOService:/AppleACPIPlatformExpert/PCI0@0/AppleACPIPCI/XHC1@14/XHC1@14000000/ SSP1@14800000/miniStack@14800000/IOUSBHostInterface@0/IOUSBMassStorageInterfa ceNub/IOUSBMassStorageDriverNub/IOUSBMassStorageUASDriver/IOSCSITargetDevice/ IOSCSIHierarchicalLogicalUnit@0000000000000000/fi_dungeon_driver_IOSATDriver/ IOSATServices

Enclosure Vendor Id / Product Id : 0x1e91 / 0xa3a9 SAT Pass Through Mode : sat12 SAT SMART Driver Version : 0.10.1s SAT SMART Driver Bundle Id : fi.dungeon.driver.SATSMARTDriver SAT SMART Driver I/O Class : fi_dungeon_driver_IOSATDriver

Attributes Data Structure Revision : 16 SMART Command Transport (SCT) flags : 0x3d SCT Status supported : yes SCT Feature Control supported : yes SCT Data Table supported : yes Error logging capabilities : 0x1 Self-tests supported : yes Offline Data Collection capabilities : 0x5b Offline Data Collection status : 0x84 Auto Offline Data Collection flags : 0x1 [Known device ]: yes [Drive State Flags ]: 0x0

=== CURRENT POWER CYCLE STATISTICS === Time since computer startup : 261 hours Data Read : 31,145,984 bytes (31.1 MB) Data Written : 288,768 bytes (288.8 KB) Data Read/Write Ratio : 107.86 Data Read/hour : 119.1 KB/hour Data Write/hour : 1.1 KB/hour

Operations (Read) : 154 Read IOPS : 454 Operations (Write) : 16 Write IOPS : 47 Operations Read/Write Ratio : 10 Throughput per operation (Read) : 202.2 KB/Op Throughput per operation (Write) : 18.0 KB/Op

Latency Time (Read) : 0 ns Latency Time (Write) : 0 ns Retries (Read) : 0 Retries (Write) : 0 Errors (Read) : 0 Errors (Write) : 0

=== PROBLEMS SUMMARY === === IMPORTANT HEALTH INDICATORS === ID NAME RAW VALUE STATUS 5 Reallocated Sector Count 0

100% OK 197 Current Pending Sector Count 0 100% OK 198 Offline Uncorrectable Sector Count 0 100% OK 199 UDMA CRC Error Count 0 100% OK

=== TEMPERATURE INFORMATION (CELSIUS) === Current Temperature : 25 Power Cycle Min Temperature : 20 Power Cycle Max Temperature : 25 Lifetime Min Temperature : 18 Lifetime Max Temperature : 45 Recommended Min Temperature : 0 Recommended Max Temperature : 60 Temperature Min Limit : -40 Temperature Max Limit : 70

=== DRIVE HEALTH INDICATORS === ID | NAME | TYPE | UPDATE | RAW VALUE | VALUE | THRESHOLD | WORST | LAST MODIFIED | STATUS 1 Raw Read Error Rate Pre-fail online 0x0 100 16 100 02/10/2022 11:48 100% OK 2 Throughput Performance Pre-fail offline 66 143 54 143 02/10/2022 11:46 61.0% OK 3 Spin Up Time Pre-fail online 181 126 24 126 02/08/2021 10:58 58.0% OK 4 Start Stop Count Life-span online 42,407 90 0 90 02/10/2022 11:46 90.0% OK 5 Reallocated Sector Count Pre-fail online 0 100 5 100 - 100% OK 7 Seek Error Rate Pre-fail online 0x0 100 67 100 - 100% OK 8 Seek Time Performance Pre-fail offline 33 118 20 118 02/10/2022 11:46 54.4% OK 9 Power On Hours Life-span online 33,474 96 0 96 02/10/2022 11:46 96.0% OK 10 Spin Retry Count Pre-fail online 0 100 60 100 - 100% OK 12 Power Cycle Count Life-span online 46 100 0 100 02/10/2022 11:46 100% OK 192 Power-Off Retract Count Life-span online 43,111 65 0 65 02/10/2022 11:46 65.0% OK 193 Load Cycle Count Life-span online 43,111 65 0 65 02/10/2022 11:46 65.0% OK 194 Temperature (Celsius) Life-span online 25 240 0 240 02/10/2022 11:48 100% OK 196 Reallocated Event Count Life-span online 0 100 0 100 - 100% OK 197 Current Pending Sector Count Life-span online 0 100 0 100 - 100% OK 198 Offline Uncorrectable Sector Count Life-span offline 0 100 0 100 - 100% OK 199 UDMA CRC Error Count Life-span online 0 200 0 200 - 100% OK

=== DRIVE ERROR LOG === error log is empty

=== DRIVE SELF-TEST LOG === # | LIFETIME (H) | TEST TYPE | PROGRESS | STATUS | LBA of 1st error

1 13708 Short offline 100% Completed without error - 2 TB ====

Drive 1

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### SYSTEM INFORMATION ### Report Timestamp : 2 October 2022 11:58:59 BST Report Timestamp (ISO 8601 format) : 2022-10-02T11:58:59

Application Name : DriveDx Application Version : 1.11.0.730 Application SubBuild : 0 Application Edition : Standalone Application Website :

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OS Boot Time : 2022-09-21T14:25:03 Time Since Boot : 10 days 21h 33m 56s OS Name : macOS OS Version : 10.14.6 OS Build : 18G9323 OS Kernel Version : Darwin 18.7.0

SAT SMART Driver Version : 0.10.1s ATA Command Support Tolerance : verypermissive N of drives in report : 1

### DRIVE 1 OF 1 ### Last Checked : 2 October 2022 11:56:33 BST Last Checked (ISO 8601 format) : 2022-10-02T11:56:33

Advanced SMART Status : OK Overall Health Rating : GOOD 100% Overall Performance Rating : GOOD 100% Issues found : 1

Serial Number : WFL1NL6R WWN Id : 5 000c50 0bf501602 Volumes : Untitled Device Path : /dev/disk4 Total Capacity : 2.0 TB (2,000,398,934,016 Bytes) Model Family : Seagate HDD Model : ST2000DM008-2FR102 Form Factor : 3.5 inches Firmware Version : 0001 Drive Type : HDD 7200 rpm

Power On Time : 1,727 hours (2 months 11 days 23 hours) Power Cycles Count : 3 Current Power Cycle Time : 261.6 hours

=== DEVICE CAPABILITIES === S.M.A.R.T. support enabled : yes DriveDx Active Diagnostic Config : Seagate HDDs default config [hdd.seagate.unknown] Sector Logical Size : 512 Sector Physical Size : 4096 Physical Interconnect : USB Logical Protocol : USB Removable : yes Ejectable : no ATA Version : ACS-3 T13/2161-D revision 5 SATA Version : SATA 3.1, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 3.0 Gb/s) I/O Path : IOService:/AppleACPIPlatformExpert/PCI0@0/AppleACPIPCI/XHC1@14/XHC1@14000000/ SSP1@14800000/miniStack@14800000/IOUSBHostInterface@0/IOUSBMassStorageInterfa ceNub/IOUSBMassStorageDriverNub/IOUSBMassStorageDriver/IOSCSILogicalUnitNub@0 /fi_dungeon_driver_IOSATDriver/IOSATServices

Enclosure Vendor Id / Product Id : 0x1e91 / 0xb0b1 SAT Pass Through Mode : sat12 SAT SMART Driver Version : 0.10.1s SAT SMART Driver Bundle Id : fi.dungeon.driver.SATSMARTDriver SAT SMART Driver I/O Class : fi_dungeon_driver_IOSATDriver

Attributes Data Structure Revision : 10 SMART Command Transport (SCT) flags : 0x30a5 SCT Status supported : yes SCT Feature Control supported : no SCT Data Table supported : yes Error logging capabilities : 0x1 Self-tests supported : yes Offline Data Collection capabilities : 0x73 Offline Data Collection status : 0x0 Auto Offline Data Collection flags : 0x0 [Known device ]: yes [Drive State Flags ]: 0xc0000000 [Last State Change Timestamp ]: 2022-10-02T11:56:34 [Last State Change Flags ]: 0x40000000 [Last State Change Diff Flags ]: 0x1 Last Email Report Timestamp : 2022-10-02T11:56:34 Last Email Report Reason Flags : 0x40000000 Last Email Report State Change Flags : 0x1

=== CURRENT POWER CYCLE STATISTICS === Time since computer startup : 261 hours Data Read : 61,694,976 bytes (61.7 MB) Data Written : 8,192 bytes (8.2 KB) Data Read/Write Ratio : 7531.12 Data Read/hour : 235.9 KB/hour Data Write/hour : 31 B/hour

Operations (Read) : 182 Read IOPS : 258 Operations (Write) : 2 Write IOPS : 3 Operations Read/Write Ratio : 91 Throughput per operation (Read) : 339.0 KB/Op Throughput per operation (Write) : 4.1 KB/Op

Latency Time (Read) : 0 ns Latency Time (Write) : 0 ns Retries (Read) : 0 Retries (Write) : 0 Errors (Read) : 0 Errors (Write) : 0

=== PROBLEMS SUMMARY === === IMPORTANT HEALTH INDICATORS === ID NAME RAW VALUE STATUS 5 Reallocated Sector Count 0

100% OK 187 Reported Uncorrectable Errors 0 100% OK 197 Current Pending Sector Count 0 100% OK 198 Offline Uncorrectable Sector Count 0 100% OK 199 UDMA CRC Error Count 422 100% Warning 241 Total LBAs Written 5,599,414,314 (2.9 TB) 100% OK

=== TEMPERATURE INFORMATION (CELSIUS) === Current Temperature : 21 Power Cycle Min Temperature : 21 Power Cycle Max Temperature : 21 Lifetime Min Temperature : 21 Lifetime Max Temperature : 49 Recommended Min Temperature : 14 Recommended Max Temperature : 55 Temperature Min Limit : 10 Temperature Max Limit : 60

=== DRIVE HEALTH INDICATORS === ID | NAME | TYPE | UPDATE | RAW VALUE | VALUE | THRESHOLD | WORST | LAST MODIFIED | STATUS 1 Raw Read Error Rate Pre-fail online 0x1520B64 73 6 64 02/10/2022 11:56 100% OK 3 Spin Up Time Pre-fail online 0 98 0 98 02/10/2022 11:56 98.0% OK 4 Start Stop Count Life-span online 2,002 99 20 99 02/10/2022 11:56 98.8% OK 5 Reallocated Sector Count Pre-fail online 0 100 10 100 02/10/2022 11:56 100% OK 7 Seek Error Rate Pre-fail online 0x9BA4E1 70 45 60 02/10/2022 11:56 100% OK 9 Power On Hours Life-span online 1,727 99 0 99 02/10/2022 11:56 99.0% OK 10 Spin Retry Count Pre-fail online 0 100 97 100 02/10/2022 11:56 100% OK 12 Power Cycle Count Life-span online 3 100 20 100 02/10/2022 11:56 100% OK 183 SATA Downshift Count Life-span online 0 100 0 100 02/10/2022 11:56 100% OK 184 End-to-End Error Life-span online 0 100 99 100 02/10/2022 11:56 100% OK 187 Reported Uncorrectable Errors Life-span online 0 100 0 100 02/10/2022 11:56 100% OK 188 Command Timeout Life-span online 2 100 0 99 02/10/2022 11:56 100% OK 189 High Fly Writes Life-span online 0 100 0 100 02/10/2022 11:56 100% OK 190 Airflow Temperature Celsius Life-span online 21 79 40 50 02/10/2022 11:56 65.0% OK 191 G-Sense Error Rate Life-span online 0 100 0 100 02/10/2022 11:56 100% OK 192 Power-Off Retract Count Life-span online 2 100 0 100 02/10/2022 11:56 100% OK 193 Load Cycle Count Life-span online 5,189 98 0 98 02/10/2022 11:56 98.0% OK 194 Temperature (Celsius) Life-span online 21 79 40 50 02/10/2022 11:56 65.0% OK 195 Hardware ECC Recovered Life-span online 0x1520B64 73 0 64 02/10/2022 11:56 100% OK 197 Current Pending Sector Count Life-span online 0 100 0 100 02/10/2022 11:56 100% OK 198 Offline Uncorrectable Sector Count Life-span offline 0 100 0 100 02/10/2022 11:56 100% OK 199 UDMA CRC Error Count Life-span online 422 200 0 196 02/10/2022 11:56 100% Warning 240 Head Flying Hours Life-span offline 79 100 0 253 02/10/2022 11:56 100% OK 241 Total LBAs Written Life-span offline

5,599,414,314 (2.9 TB) 100 0 253 02/10/2022 11:56 100% OK 242 Total LBAs Read Life-span offline 205,267,849 (105.1 GB) 100 0 253 02/10/2022 11:56 100% OK

=== DRIVE ERROR LOG === error log is empty

=== DRIVE SELF-TEST LOG === # | LIFETIME (H) | TEST TYPE | PROGRESS | STATUS | LBA of 1st error

1 831 Short offline 100% Completed without error - 3 TB ====

Drive 1

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### SYSTEM INFORMATION ### Report Timestamp : 2 October 2022 11:36:39 BST Report Timestamp (ISO 8601 format) : 2022-10-02T11:36:39

Application Name : DriveDx Application Version : 1.11.0.730 Application SubBuild : 0 Application Edition : Standalone Application Website :

formatting link
Knowledge Base Revision : 101/101

Computer Name : First Mini Host Name : First-Mini Computer Model : Macmini7,1

OS Boot Time : 2022-09-21T14:25:03 Time Since Boot : 10 days 21h 11m 36s OS Name : macOS OS Version : 10.14.6 OS Build : 18G9323 OS Kernel Version : Darwin 18.7.0

SAT SMART Driver Version : 0.10.1s ATA Command Support Tolerance : verypermissive N of drives in report : 1

### DRIVE 1 OF 1 ### Last Checked : 2 October 2022 11:36:19 BST Last Checked (ISO 8601 format) : 2022-10-02T11:36:19

Advanced SMART Status : OK Overall Health Rating : AVERAGE 57.8% Overall Performance Rating : AVERAGE 57.8% Issues found : 0

Serial Number : Z4U4MWSGS WWN Id : 5 000039 ff4ec62ae Volumes : Untitled Device Path : /dev/disk4 Total Capacity : 3.0 TB (3,000,592,982,016 Bytes) Model Family : Toshiba 3.5" DT01ACA... Desktop HDD Model : TOSHIBA DT01ACA300 Form Factor : 3.5 inches Firmware Version : MX6OABB0 Drive Type : HDD 7200 rpm

Power On Time : 53,127 hours (73 months 23 days 15 hours) Power Cycles Count : 60 Current Power Cycle Time : 261.2 hours

=== DEVICE CAPABILITIES === S.M.A.R.T. support enabled : yes DriveDx Active Diagnostic Config : Base config [hdd.default] Sector Logical Size : 512 Sector Physical Size : 4096 Physical Interconnect : USB Logical Protocol : USB Removable : yes Ejectable : no ATA Version : ATA8-ACS T13/1699-D revision 4 SATA Version : SATA 3.0, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 3.0 Gb/s) I/O Path : IOService:/AppleACPIPlatformExpert/PCI0@0/AppleACPIPCI/XHC1@14/XHC1@14000000/ SSP1@14800000/miniStack@14800000/IOUSBHostInterface@0/IOUSBMassStorageInterfa ceNub/IOUSBMassStorageDriverNub/IOUSBMassStorageDriver/IOSCSILogicalUnitNub@0 /fi_dungeon_driver_IOSATDriver/IOSATServices

Enclosure Vendor Id / Product Id : 0x1e91 / 0xb0b1 SAT Pass Through Mode : sat12 SAT SMART Driver Version : 0.10.1s SAT SMART Driver Bundle Id : fi.dungeon.driver.SATSMARTDriver SAT SMART Driver I/O Class : fi_dungeon_driver_IOSATDriver

Attributes Data Structure Revision : 16 SMART Command Transport (SCT) flags : 0x3d SCT Status supported : yes SCT Feature Control supported : yes SCT Data Table supported : yes Error logging capabilities : 0x1 Self-tests supported : yes Offline Data Collection capabilities : 0x5b Offline Data Collection status : 0x80 Auto Offline Data Collection flags : 0x1 [Known device ]: yes [Drive State Flags ]: 0x100

=== CURRENT POWER CYCLE STATISTICS === Time since computer startup : 261 hours Data Read : 47,275,008 bytes (47.3 MB) Data Written : 188,416 bytes (188.4 KB) Data Read/Write Ratio : 250.91 Data Read/hour : 181.0 KB/hour Data Write/hour : 721 B/hour

Operations (Read) : 628 Read IOPS : 1,364 Operations (Write) : 16 Write IOPS : 35 Operations Read/Write Ratio : 39 Throughput per operation (Read) : 75.3 KB/Op Throughput per operation (Write) : 11.8 KB/Op

Latency Time (Read) : 0 ns Latency Time (Write) : 0 ns Retries (Read) : 0 Retries (Write) : 0 Errors (Read) : 0 Errors (Write) : 0

=== PROBLEMS SUMMARY === === IMPORTANT HEALTH INDICATORS === ID NAME RAW VALUE STATUS 5 Reallocated Sector Count 0

100% OK 197 Current Pending Sector Count 0 100% OK 198 Offline Uncorrectable Sector Count 0 100% OK 199 UDMA CRC Error Count 1 100% OK

=== TEMPERATURE INFORMATION (CELSIUS) === Current Temperature : 22 Power Cycle Min Temperature : 20 Power Cycle Max Temperature : 22 Lifetime Min Temperature : 16 Lifetime Max Temperature : 60 Recommended Min Temperature : 0 Recommended Max Temperature : 60 Temperature Min Limit : -40 Temperature Max Limit : 70

=== DRIVE HEALTH INDICATORS === ID | NAME | TYPE | UPDATE | RAW VALUE | VALUE | THRESHOLD | WORST | LAST MODIFIED | STATUS 1 Raw Read Error Rate Pre-fail online 0x0 100 16 100 20/07/2021 05:00 100% OK 2 Throughput Performance Pre-fail offline 70 139 54 139 27/09/2022 22:28 58.2% OK 3 Spin Up Time Pre-fail online 367 155 24 155 02/10/2022 11:36 74.4% OK 4 Start Stop Count Life-span online 114,706 72 0 72 02/10/2022 11:36 72.0% OK 5 Reallocated Sector Count Pre-fail online 0 100 5 100 19/07/2021 05:30 100% OK 7 Seek Error Rate Pre-fail online 0x0 100 67 100 19/07/2021 05:30 100% OK 8 Seek Time Performance Pre-fail offline 33 124 20 124 19/07/2021 05:30 57.8% OK 9 Power On Hours Life-span online 53,127 93 0 93 27/09/2022 22:28 93.0% OK 10 Spin Retry Count Pre-fail online 0 100 60 100 19/07/2021 05:30 100% OK 12 Power Cycle Count Life-span online 60 100 0 100 02/10/2022 11:36 100% OK 192 Power-Off Retract Count Life-span online 65,535 46 0 46 19/07/2021 05:30 46.0% OK 193 Load Cycle Count Life-span online 115,413 4 0 4 02/10/2022 11:36 4.0% OK 194 Temperature (Celsius) Life-span online 22 253 0 253 02/10/2022 11:36 100% OK 196 Reallocated Event Count Life-span online 0 100 0 100 19/07/2021 05:30 100% OK 197 Current Pending Sector Count Life-span online 0 100 0 100 19/07/2021 05:30 100% OK 198 Offline Uncorrectable Sector Count Life-span offline 0 100 0 100 19/07/2021 05:30 100% OK 199 UDMA CRC Error Count Life-span online 1 200 0 200 19/07/2021 05:30 100% OK

=== DRIVE ERROR LOG === # | TIME OCCURRED | ERRORS | PRIOR COMMAND

2 34307 hours ICRC, ABRT WRITE DMA EXT 1 32276 hours ICRC, ABRT WRITE DMA EXT

=== DRIVE SELF-TEST LOG === # | LIFETIME (H) | TEST TYPE | PROGRESS | STATUS | LBA of 1st error

1 53127 Short offline 100% Completed without error - 2 33369 Short offline 100% Completed without error -
Reply to
Tim Streater

Massive biggest ever usenet snip :-)

right you have:

2 off Toshiba HDWD110 1TB Sata 3.0 3.5 inch drives 1 off Toshiba DT01ACA100 1TB Sata 3.0 3.5 inch drive 1 off Toshiba DT01ACA300 3TB Sata 3.0 3.5 inch drive 1 off Seagate ST2000DM008 2TB Sata 3.1 3.5 inch drive.

Some of these were operating in Sata 2.0 mode rather than its SATA 3.0 mode, I can only assume this was because you were connecting to them via USB rather than via SATA or to a SATA 2.0 port rather than a SATA 3.0 port.

So thats a total storage space of 8TB across 5 drives......

I've now taken the rest of this conversation into anemail to you assuming your email address is correct....

Don't do what one ebayer seller did to me a couple of months ago, wrap a

4TB drive in cling film (no anti static bag!) and then put into a jiffy bag instead of proper polystyrene packaging and a cardboard box.

The Postal worker dutifully passed the package through the letter box, to drop 4 ft straight onto a concrete floor.

The hard drive was FUBAR upon impact with said floor and I got a refund from the ebay seller after some persistence as the seller had absolutely no idea on how to ship a hard drive safely and I had to explain to him how drives should be shipped and how easily damaged they are!

I once had 2 sticks of RAM sent to me wrapped in cling film instead of in antistatic packaging via Ebay... it consequently failed MemTest86! Cue another refund from another clueless seller.

Reply to
SH

However, SSDs reserve a proportion of their storage cells for wear levelling and replacement of bad cells. These reserved cells are not visible to the operating system. Drives with higher write endurance specifications will generally have more hidden cells. Also, the drive can move data around without the operating system being aware.

John

Reply to
John Walliker

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