OT All electric fighter plane.

Myself, I'm all for developing an anti-gravity machine. With every plane fitted with one, wings could be dispensed with and hence drag and the power required to overcome it would be much reduced. Hydrogen fuel cells, electric motors and ducted fans would then become the norm.

Thinking out of the box is all very well, but you have to keep within the laws of physics, and calculations based on them.

Errr you're being optimist. The L-battery in my car weighs 220Kg and is only 16Kwh.

No, it's you that are thick and gullible. Clearly you never paid attention at school.

Your common sense should tell you that electricity powered commercial flight is bollocks. Did not a Spitfire have a 37 litre engine?

Hardly.

If he knew it all, Turnip wouldn't have spent the last 20 years of his life designing something, electric planes, which as he's just explained to you in greatest detail, can't possibly work.

With all the actual calculations to prove it.

Given he's so clever you might have thought he'd have been able to work all this out within a few weeks of starting; say by February 2000 at the latest. So he spent a month designing electric planes 20 years ago.

But no he's been at it for the whole of the past 20 years.

Until the penny finally dropped.

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Which box would that be then, s*it-for-brains?

We're waiting for your analysis of the problem, with numbers showing how it could be done. And if you can't provide one, then my advice is to STFU, since otherwise you'll just be pissed on from a great height.

No.

Thanks for confirming your research is flawed.

I thought the final engine on the Spitfire was the Merlin 66 that had a displacement of 27 litres.

Of course ICBW

Another idiot.

I gave the details of what people in R&D are looking at in electric/hybrid planes. Then two half-wits came in saying they know all the answers while dishing out insults. Well it was not me proposing, I was just the messenger.

Now you are saying one of them is some sort of Barnes Wallace. Give me a break! They come across to me as two old know-it-all coots who still think it is 1971.

Yes. With the Stanley Hooker two-stage, two-speed supercharger, which gave the Merlin an extra 70mph and 15,000 feet.

Well s*it-fer-brains, wrong as usual.

The final engine fitted to the Spitfire was the Griffin engine....37 litres.

They do work.

Wow!

Even his date numbers are off as well, I would hate to the other numbers.

Has anyone told him electric planes work?

They are small, expensive and of limited range. Experimental.

The energy density of say petrol is 50X teat of a lithium battery though the electric motor is more efficient.

Also the battery doesn't get lighter as it is expended,also reducing range of electric planes.

There is hope with fuel cells and liquid hydrogen but these are less efficient than present aircraft. And a lot more dangerous.

Over the fence, into the next field ITYM

That was in 2017

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No, dear boy . I am a highly qualified engineer with a lifetimes experience in building things to budget that actually work, and 15 years experience in building electric aircraft.

You are the arrogant prat.

You believe what con men tell you because you want to be smart, But you are not,. You are really rather stupid.

You can't challenge the sums so you simply throw insults. Pathetic beyond contempt.

Your problem is that you have been made to feel as though you were ahead of the game by con men., In fact you are in the dunces corner. You cant bear to realise it though., So you are full of denial.

Well you thought wrong

You are re one dishing out insults.

Thise 'people in R & D' are not proper engineers. They are confidence tricksters and you fell for it. I gave you half a page of maths that proves it, but you cant near to accepot you have been made a foll of - not by me, but by them

I have a slightly better engineering degree than Barnes Wallis. And I can spell his name too. Oddly he lived only a couple of hundred yards from me when I was a child.

I haven't noticed much change in the laws of physics since Jesus was hung on a cross.

The only change since 1971 is the huge quantity of idiots being taken for a ride who *think* they know far more than they do.

That's the result of creeping socialism that tells people how clever they are and that nothing is their fault, its always someone else?s.

in 1970 I was at university learning Engineering. Since then I and others like me have built the f****ng world you live in. Don't you

To repeat "The numbers here stack up".

The numbers in question being in this case "15" and "nearly 20"

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