Openreach engineers 4th visit...

As I have related, been clearing up faults on the reinstalled new BT landline in my house.

Last week a (incandescent) bulb blew in my bedroom. Tripped the MCB and, unusually the RCD, so it must have been a helluvan arc.

Having restored power and rebulbed the light, I noted that the broadband speed was dire.

Suspecting router damage I rebooted the router and upgraded its firmware in case..., Still no joy, then I checked the phone line, Mega crackles now and again.

I couldn't understand why the bulb blowing would cause this but shruggged and got onto the ISP again who got onto open reach who said it was at the exchange, then said it wasn't, so this morning Openreach engineer No 1 returned to fix it.

TDR only revelaed something really close to the socket, so they (he had an apprentice) went outside got a ladder and plugged into the line just where it enters the house. No crackle.

New junction box, jelly filled crimps, another 1 dB less attentuation and the line has never been faster.

The curious point is that the old junction box was *less than a metre from the bulb that blew*.

Coincidence? There was a slight amount of noise on the line before, but it dramatically increased post bulb blow.

Altogether that is at least 5 separate bad joints on this line to date that have been fixed. It must have cost at least 5 years of line rental income.

They tell me fibre to the premises is coming soom, but I wont be able to afford it :-)

Reply to
The Natural Philosopher
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I've been wondering about fibre to the premiss. If wireless technology continues to improve there may be no need for it.

Maybe fibre to the lamp post?

Reply to
Paul Welsh

Induced surge almost but not quite fusing/breaking an corroded connection?

I'd guesstimate we average between one and two reported faults/year for the last twenty years. As I get and email or text when the ADSL falls over I hop into the car and find the Openreach enginner somewhere along the last mile of ali cable and tell them, it's normally back before I get home.

I've also got Total Care so the target to fix it by is the end of the day after the day report it 365 days/year. So there was a Openreach chap fixing the line on Christmas Eve last year. And before now when the first (no local knowledge) enginner couldn't fix it, they dragged an engineer (with local knowledge) off a job over in Stockton 50+ miles away.

Nap, there is a lot of FTTP going in to replace the copper network. Most ISP's can provide you with service (80 or 160 Mbps, dependant on your location) over FTTP for the same as VDSL or a small premium. Probably a minimum 12 month term and install fee but nothing like the costs "FTTP on Demand" (which not many ISPS offer).

Reply to
Dave Liquorice

Seems unlikley, but there again, isn't that excatly what good ol' Heinrich is famous for?

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Reply to
Graham.

The problem that wireless is a shared bandwidth system.

Been here for a long time now, variously called FTTC, FTTN etc.

FTTC is actually a box usually in the pit under the ground each one serving maybe 3/4 houses.

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dkol

In message snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com, Graham. snipped-for-privacy@mail.com writes

Unrelated but curious. There was a supply outage here earlier this evening. Probably routine switching. The central heating went off. After a hour or so and lighting the log fire, I found the CH controller had not followed the setting. Tapping the box brought the lamp and the CH back!

Reply to
Tim Lamb

These computers and stuff, eh? Yesterday my car sat nav, which supposedly knows about speed limits, claimed that the limit on approach to our village was 97mph.

Reply to
Tim Streater

Right, I doubt very much if the two events are in any way related. With the broadband, well I understand the telephones are all going voip by the end of next year so one supposes that there will be a fibre very close to you then when they start ripping out the copper, best done before the travelling gentlemen do it in the dead of night. Brian

Reply to
Brian Gaff

Yes 5g everywhere, no more cabling. Then suddenly something will go wrong and everyone cut off! Brian

Reply to
Brian Gaff

FTTP will be a lot cheaper than providing the equivalent of a mobile base station at every lamp post. And further distances would not provide the bandwidth the population uses. 4G only works by pricing out most streaming uses.

Reply to
Roger Hayter

My vote is for coincidence. The same phenomenon that leads people to believe vaccination is harmful.

Reply to
Roger Hayter

We have FTTC and the cab is about 400 yards down the road - I can see it. From there to here is the same copper we always had. Get about

35Mbps.

Does anyone actually need a higher speed? Unless at the same price, of course. But what is the domestic need for it?

Reply to
Tim Streater

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I'd guess that the dodgy joint was there all along, and maybe the bulb blowing was enough to restart the router, and it retrained to the dodgy line?

Reply to
Chris Bartram

FTTP on Deamand is expensive. FTTP which Openreach and other suppliers decide to instal is no more expensive than DSL based services of the same speed.

Reply to
Michael Chare

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"8K could push those requirements up to 80 Mbit/s or even 100 Mbit/s for each channel/stream."

And that's for each of your kids watching TV...

Andy

Reply to
Vir Campestris

You say that very confidently. Do you have a cite to back it up?

Reply to
Paul Welsh

Eh? I though a FTTC cabinet served many more houses than that. Mine is about 1km away and I live in an urban environment.

Reply to
Paul Welsh

My FTTC box is 100 yards away, similar speed though sometimes a bit faster.

Domestic need? Our kids have all left home, but I imagine that three teenagers streaming different films at 4k would slow things down a little.

Reply to
newshound

Yes.

Reply to
mm0fmf

No, but I think it is self-evident. Given that both solutions require fibre connections in every street.

Reply to
Roger Hayter

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