Does it matter when the plates are present on the vehicle being tested,
along with the correct VIN? The reason for details of the plate supplier
is surely to prevent rogue suppliers providing them without checking and
so aiding the use of false plates by people who are driving without
insurance, tax, etc. or driving stolen vehicles. They are unlikely to
put such a vehicle through an MOT. Plates from before those requirements
could even be on new vehicles after a cherished number transfer anyway -
you might just transfer the plates rather than get new ones once the
transfer has been authorised.
makes sense I got mail order show plates made up without the post code
and supplier when I transferred a number and was a bit worried about
mot time when it comes...should be OK then.....the normal plates that I
got made up locally for the car that was reverting back to its original
number has the supplier and post code but they are engraved into the
plastic and you can't see them unless you look very closely .....
When I looked at this a while ago, you can make your own plates so no
need to identify the supplier. Even a company making plates for its own
cars does not need to be registered as a 'supplier'.
The key words are 'supply' and in general terms you can't supply yourself.
You can have them made outside of England and Wales and so not subject
to the silly rules we have.
You can of course also get a plastic notice with XX49 ABCD on it to
mark an outbuilding (or whatever). The UK legislation is very silly
really, they can't prevent anyone making a piece of plastic with
numbers and letters on surely.
On Mon, 13 Jan 2020 09:00:22 +0000, Chris Green wrote:
When the "massive change" in the law occurred, requiring all places that
sold number plates to check (and copy ?) the V5, it was pointed out that
no such checks were required to buy the kit to make the plates. Nor were
they required on places that owned the kit (like my Dads garage).
Like a lot of laws, when you stop to think, it's clear they're just to
shut the masses up. (And they usually work).
The idea is to make it more difficult to get them made up while you wait.
For obvious reasons. 'Show' plates or other mail order ones are more
likely to allow the buyer to be traced.
I wanted some new ones for the old Rover - but didn't want them saying
Halfords or whatever. So got some made up using the name of the garage who
supplied the car new - but no longer exists.
*Plagiarism saves time *
Dave Plowman email@example.com London SW
On Mon, 13 Jan 2020 11:02:07 +0000, Chris J Dixon wrote:
Pretty certain plates *if fitted* are part of the MOT. They have to be
the correct colour, fixed securely and (obviously) the correct number.
It used to be possible to MOT a car without plates - the VIN was used.
Did this once on a car that was awaiting a registration from the DVLA as
it had been a diplomats car.
On Monday, 13 January 2020 11:02:09 UTC, Chris J Dixon wrote:
I agree with you - totally disproportionate. But annoyed I become.
I suspect a spare pair. But the risk of being caught while driving must be
very low as so many people seem to use them. I'd like to think that anyone
stopped for any reason by police would get appropriately hit if they have s
uch number plates. After all, it is a deliberate "stuff you" to the law. (M
ind, I'd be a bit more forgiving for people who did not make a decision to
transgress - such as stone-chipped during a journey.)
On Mon, 13 Jan 2020 03:39:59 -0800, polygonum_on_google wrote:
I think as long as they are legible, there's a certain weary acceptance
on the part of the police.
That said, you'd have thought an automated summons from an ANPR camera
for non-regulation plates would be possible ?
ANPR is incredibly robust, and AIUI the number of cases where a read
completely fails is low enough for a manual intervention.
If these characters are fitting their "look at me" plates in a bid to
defeat ANPR - certainly those used in law enforcement - they really are
as dim as you'd imagine.
I am working under the assumption that images that cannot produce a valid
number plate automatically are flagged up for a pair of human eyes to
check. (We already know that human eyes can be involved at some stage,
since people get caught lying about who was driving from the images
captured by the equipment).
If I am wrong, and a failed automatic image capture cannot lead to a
summons, then we return to asking what the fuck the everyday police in
cars are doing when they see a dodgy plate go past ?
I agree about strange fonts, but have no problem with changed spacing.
If anything, it often makes it read in a way that is far more memorable
and so much easier to report in the event of a hit and run, dangerous
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