Not using the NHS app

Perhaps we should privatise the NHS. Now there's an idea.

Your anecdata about the NHS is many months out of date. The publicans, and the public, are involved in venues *this week*.

A true Tory speaks. You only need to look at the US to see how a rampant profit making health service works.

I certianly had to give personal details when I got my hair cut recently

I've been for a blood test where the wait in the waiting room was minimal but the chairs that could be occupied were more than 2 metres apart in every direction.

My mother is currently in hospital and visiting is limited to a short set time per day and limited only to the one same visitor who has made the prior arrangement. However I can just walk into the ward and visit with no other need to sign in etc.

And what you are seeing on the news is the exception. The pubs that I know of are enforcing the rules and many you cannot get into without booking.

Supermarkets on the other hand are not enforcing any rules with regard customers wearing masks.

No in my recent experience.

It doesn't matter if its practical! If it is necessary in some random circumstances why not in others where there is probably a much greater risk?

This is a novel 'solution' :-

It's given the entire world some the most amazing drugs, implants, procedures and both analytical and therapeutic equipment without which the NHS would simply cease to function, apart from very basic medicine and procedures.

All three of them ?

As is the case with churches.

You mean there were lots of covid patients there occupying beds of whom the hospital had no knowledge?

Worked very well IME. As did the Swiss health service, of which I have personal experience. I had two ops there, and chose to pay extra the first time to get a private room. The patient has <gasp> choice, y'see, just like with all goods and services which are privately provided.

Works well *if you have money*.

The last two NHS ops I had both offered a choice of three or more different places. I chose the private hospital in Margate (on my GP's recommendation)

You may find that a lot of GP practices are basically run by a partnership of doctors on a commercial basis charging the NHS for their services and claiming money for meeting targets.

No, lots of people walking into hospitals where there is no requirement to sign in and even if given prior approval for visiting patients no record of the day when these visits may, or may not, have taken place.

I'll second that for South Africa, where people don't abuse the system because insurance only pays for the major stuff.

The problem there isn't lack of an NHS, its lack of funded mandatory basic insurance for all, but then again the country cannot yet afford that.

Fortunately the people who can afford medical treatment keep the hospitals up to scratch so that they are there in emergencies for the less well heeled.

Not a lot extra. And in Switzerland, it's compulsory for employers to provide health insurance.

The problem with the poster sign-in is that there is no way of signing out, without signing into somewhere else. Or waiting until midnight. This gives a very inaccurate picture if you go to the pub for half an hour at lunchtime.

We have a poster by our front door so that we can sign in at home..