Non smart lobby lamp

Jan 18, 2023 Last reply: 3 years ago 18 Replies

My brain hurts!



We have a 3m x 3m external lobby linking to a store and garden access. Pressure is being exerted to install illumination for key finding, boot removal etc.


3 pages of the Screwfix site largely point toward intelligent/Alexa switching which I refuse to use.

Can someone kindly point towards a wall mount, low wattage led lamp triggered by a movement sensor having a few minutes *on delay*?


Try Mr Google for outdoor pir lamp

and you should get thousands. Here's Screwfix:

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Why the on delay, do you *want* to stand outside, in the dark looking for your keys until the light decides to come on?

Tim Lamb wrote on 18/01/2023 :

Try CPC

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In message snipped-for-privacy@jrenewsid.jretrading.com>, Joe snipped-for-privacy@jretrading.com writes

Laziness > this way:-) That's 5 pages! I was hoping someone had done this job recently and could make a recommendation.

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Grammar! I meant stays on for a short while:-)

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I guess a dim lobby lamp would mean nobody could see by it? Seriously, who would want alexa involved in such a simple task? Brian

Is there sunlight available? If so, one of the self-contained solar fittings might be useful.

Chris

what search terms are you using? Alexa devices seem totally inappropriate here..

Well I would use a separate sensor and lights.

So a wall mount sensor.

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Then whatever lamp you want. There are plenty of wall lamps:-

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Dave G4UGM

In message <tq8p3f$t43o$ snipped-for-privacy@dont-email.me, Andy Smith snipped-for-privacy@b.com writes

Ok Andy. Bit industrial but 10W LED should be more than enough.

10W LED Floodlight with PIR, 4000K, 735lm, White, IP65 -

I decided the microwave detector might also see us moving inside the house.

Now I have to get the order up to £20 for free delivery:-)

To be in direct Sun, mounting would be too low. I have power in the barn so just the cable hole to drill.

Ok Dave. Points taken. I know this is d-i-y but I was hoping to keep the job simple.

Nope, handy to be able to override abnormal behaviour and to program stuff like when it can operate with Alexa.

Not always easy to have the sensor always trigger it when required and never false trigger.

Brian Gaff snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote

You only need dim to be able to take the wellys off and find the keyhole.

Anyone who has tried it with a crude PIR triggered light which it isnt always possible to have trigger completely reliably and never false trigger who has alexa already.

it would be but you don't seem to have that functionality

My ancient Smiths PIR bulkhead fitting has two pots on the circuit board to alter the light threshold (for setting up) and the duration that the light remains on.

Used this, one~two years ago :-

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It's just a bog standard PIR light (lamp) fixed above the front door switches on when people reach the front door (has to be well angled as people walking past will trigger it if it is set fully forward) then remains on for a set time (10 seconds, 45 seconds, two minutes or 10 minutes.

I feel you are over-thinking this, just get a standard PIR outdoor light and install. Only, MAY be non-trivial part, getting power to it. But it should not be beyond your ken to sort that out

Fused power the other side of a single brick wall.

I have actually ordered a 10 watt version of something similar.

Why would you want a few minutes on delay? If you are in the field of view of its PIR sensor then it stays on otherwise it goes off after about half a minute (maybe a minute tops).

I have this battery powered one (takes 3 C cells) as does our VH. Provides enough light to find the keyhole on return and or walk down the drive to the street where there are streetlamps when leaving.

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Batteries last about a year or so in near daily use. Only comes on after dark the PIR sensor must be very low current.

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