Newsnight and ventilators.

[Pamela]

You should check your "facts" before posting. Dyson moved manufacturing to Malaysia and Singapore. There are 4,000 Dyson employees in Malaysia, not UK as you claim. He also moved Dyson's headquarters to Singapore.

He would keep his designers in the UK because if he didn't get a govt subsidy. Despite Dyson's weepy-eyed Jingo publicity, there are perfectly good designers elsehwere in the world.

Dyson is largely a Far Eastern company with a British born boss. The difference between Chinese manufacturers of ventilators and Dyson is that Dyson has no experience.

Price gouging is Dyson's forte. That's how he became a billionaire. I don't see why he should use the epidemic to bilk even more money out the British government.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

He may have a tiny manufacturing capacity in the UK for prototype etc needs. But why would he have major capacity here?

[Steve Walker]

Under normal circumstances yes, but under emergency conditions with thousands needing ventilators urgently, government would surely give instructions to use the mass manufactured ones available rather than none. The government instructions would cover the liability aspect. Clinicians would still have the responsibility of balancing the needs of the patient against the risks and might wait longer before putting someone on a ventilator, as they would obviously feel personal responsibility anyway.

SteveW

[Andrew]

Chinese ventilators are changing hands many times after the Manufacturer sells them at the moment. A bit like the way a cargo of crude changes ownership many times en-route.

The end user is paying a lot more than the manufacturer sells them for, and the whole world is bidding for them.

[Andrew]

Nothing sucks like an electrolux :-)

[Andrew]

All the F1 teams, and outfits like Ricardo have lots of 3D printing capability and some of the best designers and software people going. And they are almost all based in the UK, and all fairly close together.

[Jinky ...]

and wasted on stupid F1 car racing ...

[Pamela]

At worst in-demand Chinese ventilators are unlikely to cost as much as Dyson will charge.

He'll probably spread his R%D costs across his first batch and then carry on charging at that rate. To say nothing of his notoriously unreliability. Surely it's better to use a proven 10 year old design than an over-stressed and unproven new design.

James Dyson is a businessman who drums up trade and racks up profits by masquerading as a philanthropist. I'm surprised he hasn't already given up his British passport to comply with Far Eastern local ownership requirements.

[Pamela]

These are excellent engineering shops but can they produce at high volumes?

[Andrew]

He owns thousands of acres of UK farmland to claim EU area payments and get IHT relief. He isn't going to give that up quickly.

[nightjar]

You really don't understand the way the DoH and NHS think.

I recall the witch hunt that went on when, because of vCJD, it was decided to change from British made reusable items to imported disposable items. That was a decision made in a hurry, to meet an emergency need. It wasn't long before somebody died as a result of the poor quality of the imported items. It was no defence to point out that they were CE marked. Anybody who has had a stand at an international medical exhibition could have told them that manufacturers from some countries would approach exhibitors and offer to sell them products. If you wanted them CE marked, they would be. However, if you questioned the people making the offer it would quickly become obvious that, to them, it was not a guarantee of quality, just something they marked on the goods because that was what the customer wanted.

[Fredxx]

Best make a complaint to Advertising Standards:

I won't be holding my breath.

[F]

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There you have it.

Maitlis interrupts, talks over, gets angry, pretty much shouts at times all in an attempt to get herself a Gotcha.

So many 'guests' on Newsnight turn up only to have their time wasted.

[Pamela]

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Not when you snip the relevant parts of my post, you don't.

Nadhim Zahawi didn't want to be interviewed. He simply wanted to make political points. He could do that just as well in a statement.

[T i m]

So what about reverse engineering something to make a CPAP machine, is that still a new design?

Going though in a week they said?

Cheers, T i m

[charles]

why bother -, just get the details from the original manufacturer - as is being done

[michael adams]

I stand corrected.

I thought that was just a Private Eye joke but extensive in-depth research confirms that he was indeed appointed Britain's first (and only?) Litter Czar

And I'd always thought it was Labour who started the Czars with Louise Casey the Asbo Czar

michael adams

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[F]

'The Newsnight piece was very unusual in that there was an interview with someone in the cabinet. Can't remember the last time Newsnight had that. Nadhim Zahawi. Who only wanted to answer the questions he wanted to hear. And Maitlis who only wanted to score points, as usual'.

There you go, your original words. The part I snipped wasn't relevant to my point. Government ministers don't turn up because Mails only wants Gotchas.

As usual, your politics are warping your view of reality.

[Robin]

No - they had to reverse engineer. Then they improved. From Professor Tim Baker (UCL Mechanical Engineering):

"From being given the brief, we worked all hours of the day, disassembling and analysing an off-patent device. Using computer simulations, we improved the device further to create a state-of-the-art version suited to mass production. "