New televisions from China or Taiwan

Jul 25, 2010 102 Replies

That's very likely part of it, electronics can be knocked up in a Chinese shed by robots and low paid people and don't cost a lot to ship.

Actual metal bashing needs more man-hours and is still done in the UK occasionally. Too heavy and bulky to freight at low cost.

Having said which there's probably a massive mark-up on a boiler when you see how much more metal you get in some agricultural machinery which doesn't cost much more.

Useful for a cat though

at least the LCD box fits into the attic

In message , Albert Ross writes

Not as much as there is on some of the parts

I've got a big speaker right next to my CRT TV and it has hardly any effect - if I take it away there is a bit of colour fringing visible on a pure white field indicating that the degaussing circuits (or whatever they have) have compensated.

Well I've never had that many moving coil loudspeakers but the ones I have had Spendor BC1, Rogers LS3/5A and LS5/8's and Tannoy Yorks haven't been problematic, but perhaps I don't want they right next to 't telly!...

Its an inverse square thing anyway, and the larger the speaker the further inside it the magnets are.

A good bookshelf type is the worst offender.

Actually inverse cube, for a magnetic field.

Oh yes that too. Our fitter recommended a Vaillant. His experience was that Worcesters weren't nearly as good as they're supposed to be and some other makes were impossible to fix, Vaillants were manufactured to be repairable and at a reasonable cost, although his definition of reasonable probably differed significantly from yours or mine.

An agricultural magazine looked into parts costs, the winner was a simple bolt which could be obtained anywhere but which the manufacturer had marked up several thousand percent. That's where many industries make the bulk of their profit, rather than knocking up cheap disposable stuff like electronics.

In article , Fred writes

You can't compare the size of CRT TVs and LCD TVs directly. If you had a 28" CRT and bought a 28" LCD to replace it, you'd be disappointed.

A 19" LCD is about right for the viewing distance for a 14" CRT, and there are plenty of these around, most of them have Freeview built in.

In article , Man at B&Q writes

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underestimate the stupidity of people.

The review is interesting, I suppose if you've spent that much on a kettle lead you have to notice how good it is. No name either, presumably Mr & Mrs Head's son, Dick.

Recently I've been swearing at kettle leads which have a nasty habit of falling out of servers, so there definitely quality issues. Maybe not the ones RA are trying to solve :-)

I think the "issue" that RA are trying to "solve" is the excessive funds held by stupid people.

Tie-wrap 'em to something.

Do your servers slide out in the rack? If so do you have the cable management arm at the back, with all the cabling installed in it so you can pull the server out while in-service? Or did some soppy date do that for all cable *except* the power cord, so when you pull the server out, the management arm unfolds nicely but the power cord, being tie-wrapped to one of the rack uprights, just pulls out. I've seen it done!

Not necessarily an option.

Yes. But these ones hadn't been.

Tee hee. We don't use cable management arms any more because they cause more problems than they solve.

The problem wasn't cables being pulled, it was just crappy plugs which didn't sit in their holes well enough and edged themselves out ever so slightly, so looked like they were in but weren't actually connected.

We've got some posher ones now with little clamps, which do well when there aren't other bits in the way, and are impossible to remove when there are :-(

Could you elaborate? I'm rather a fan of them.

Yes, I've met those too!

I think my initial gripe was I couldn't follow cables. I then compared racks with arms and racks without and the ones without were just easier to work with. It doesn't help having all your cables (eg 2xpower, 6+ network, 4 FC) coming off at one edge. Power was particularly bad for that - if you've got 2xPDUs on separate phases, you end up with one on either side of the rack, and half the power then needs to cross back to the other side, which then stops the arms working neatly. (all our servers have 2 PSUs).

Mmmm. I would have thought all the cables coming off at one edge not particularly a problem. They're all going to go into the cable management ducting anyway, and then off to patch panels etc. For power, they go down to the bottom of the rack where the power strips are.

I think the main problem with rack cabling has always been that the lengths are never what you need. In the end I got fed up with dealing with the consequences dealing with over-long cables that for the next installation they all got made up to length. Dunno if that scales though. But our company never got a proper grip on installations. They tended to be done on an ad-hoc basis with no view to the future. A good basis for spaghetti, that.

No network cables leave racks for us apart from from the switches at the bottom. So no cable management ducting involved. Not really space for power strips at the bottom of the rack for us either - we've got a lot of power cables :-) The PDUs are mounted vertically at the sides, hence the crossover issue.

Mix of 0.5s, 1s and 2s seems to cover it for us without _too_ much spaghetti. How do you manage to get your cable lengths that accurate?

We've got some beautiful rats-nests, and the one with the arms is the worst :-) The newer stuff is fairly sane though, and that's the ones I've been describing.

I used to recommend worcester, but I see so much worcester stuff coming in now, not any more

Yes, vaillant seems to be the fitters weapon of choice nowadays

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