New televisions from China or Taiwan

There were half a dozen Wifi networks in the Orpington branch of Comet. What I don't recall was whether I was able to gain access to any of them.

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Michael Chare
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Mark

Loads of CRT TVs on freecycle. I have picked up quite a few for the family.

And with regards to LCD TVs - why not just get a good computer monitor with a STB (+ a few other bits)?

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Mark

Ours lasted about ten years, according to the memory of the previous owners.

I was hoping the new one would do better as we installed a water softener.

The fitter reckoned this was about an average life nowadays and although they may be repairable with varying amounts of difficulty the price would be such as to make replacement more worthwhile.

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Albert Ross

In article , Bob Henson writes

They have become a lot more complicated in recent times.

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Mike Tomlinson

In article , js.b1 writes

I had a devil of a time finding the chopper control IC for a LG 19" monitor power supply a couple years ago. The chip ID was 2AS01. Found a UK supplier who claimed to have stock but wanted 15 quid apiece. Ebay turned up a seller in Florida who sold me one for $3 delivered. It arrived in three days and fixed the problem.

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Mike Tomlinson

So several people have told me, Mike, and I don't dispute it. However, compared to a modern TV (which we were doing, by implication at least), the technology is still relatively crude, and nowhere near justifies the prices charged for it, IMHO. I would expect to get six boilers for the price of one TV, not the other way round.

Regards,

Bob

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Bob Henson

But items made of metal - requiring welding, brazing, assembly, etc seem to carry a premium as their production methods aren't as advanced or as efficient as a purely electronic item. On this assumption though a TV should cost even less - but there is a lot of material in the casing and the screen. Packaging and shipping - along with what the market will pay is also a factor. Selling plasma TVs to people with a perfectly adequate CRT TV proved that people will pay for very little improvement in 'functionality'.

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John

Is that still true though? CRT TVs used to have a lot of discrete components that could be individually replaced but in recent years hasn't everything miniaturized and been integrated into chips? I didn't think there was much inside the box these days and even if it could be replaceable, can you order spare parts and can you find someone who knows how to replace them? If you can, are you likely to be told their labour cost will be more than a new tv?

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Fred

I was told it was due to weight. CRTs are heavy so it costs more to ship them halfway around the world. LCDs and plasmas are lighter and also thinner, so they can fit more in a container too.

There is also the WEEE regulations whereby (IIRC) manufacturers are charged the cost of disposing old electrical equipment and they are charged by weight, so CRTs would attract a higher charge than LCDs.

So it's all about money, not necessarily quality of picture.

One disappointing thing is that you used to be able to get small TVs (~14 inch) quite cheaply to use in the kitchen/bedroom/wherever but I haven't seen anything small and cheap yet.

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Fred

In message , Mike Tomlinson writes

In some ways

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geoff

Might that have been where someone put a large loudspeaker next to it and magnetised the screen?.

Or it was a convergence fault?...

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tony sayer

There isn't a lot in the weight between our old 28" CRT and 42" plasma... Packaged volume is another matter, the box for the CRT made a great play house for the kids for quite a while, the plasma box is only 9" deep, useless as a playhouse. B-)

A 14" widescreen would be very small... Think you'd need 16" or greater 16:9 to get the same vertical height as a 14" 4:3 set. 16" WS TVs are about but not sub =A3100 but then most 16" or greater computer monitors are also above =A3100.

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Dave Liquorice

I never found out. It was a different telly next time I went there :-)

(I'd say that if a l/s had that kind of leakage there'd have to be a fault with it, too).

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Tim Streater

You would be wrong there, then.

All speakers leak HUGE amounts of flux.

There is no requirement for them not to.

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The Natural Philosopher

Electrostatics perhaps;?...

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tony sayer

Hmmm, only the cheapo, poorly designed ones, according to giggle.

Unless they're touted to be "video safe".

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Tim Streater

No but you can buy a 19" for £125. You would have to provide your own usb stick to record stuff onto for that price.

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dennis

I'll give you that one, yes.

Reply to
The Natural Philosopher

Not in my experience.

'we put carap magnets in this, they barely do 80dB/W BUT THEY ARE VIDEO SAFE !!'

yeah, right :-)

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The Natural Philosopher

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