Networking question

Are you cured now?

I can't think of anything to say that doesn't consist largely of expletives.

How many times did you type 0yy before they put in "?TECUEY" ?

Andy

I had the choice of using that, or a locally developed editor.

It was the right choice. It turned up again on the BBC Micro (assembler ROM), on VAX/VMS, and on RT-11. I used them all.

People have written macros to solve differential equations with it.

And someone wrote an extended macro system for it to turn it into a visual editor. Then they rewrote it independently. They called it the Extended MACro System - EMACS.

I fear you may have been "whooshed" ...

OIC! I need sleep....!

You and me both - up at 5am to go motor racing in the pissing rain.

:o(

Mmmm. I've only run emacs twice - by accident the second time. Each time it took me 20 mins to find out how to quit it.

I imagine that if it was either emacs, or use a bar magnet with iron filings and a magnifying glass to write the bits directly on the disc, I'd probably choose emacs.

But only just.

I bought my first PC back in 1984 (an Advance 86b). It vame with an 'office suite', part of which was a text editor called Perfect Writer. It was actually a hard wired subset of Emacs, and I learned it then....!

I am proud to say that in 20 years of coding mostly on Unix systems I have never learnt emacs, and now X-windows actually works, I see no reason to touch it, ever.

I learnt vi, because it was the only editor you could guarantee would be on any given unix system.

Why torture yourself with another?

Because I learned it during a period when I wasn't using UNIX so much.

And I do know how to use ed, and that *really* is available on every system.

What I like is the compactness of testing against the regex & then using groups from the match, as opposed to python:

p = re.compile('^(\d+)\s+(\w+)\s*$') m = p.match(string)

if m: do_stuff_with(m.group(1), m.group(2))

No comment.

Well, I went (down the M1) round the M25 and up the M11. The M25 wasn't too bad because most of the bit I used was either 4 lanes, and I trundled down L1 at 50mph, shaking my head as the Bimmers & Audis howled into the murk at 85mph or it was road works and limited to 50 mph, which was more like a sane speed.

More worryingly, the Managed Motorway stuff on the Northbound M1 was all out. It was working Southbound, because I could see the "60" limit and "Slow Down - Spray" signs, but the Northbound stuff was completely out, apart from 1 lane closed "X" and (bizarrely) a "Don't Drink and Drive" sign near Luton. Not even the "Hard Shoulder Emergency Use Only" signs were on. Water in the electrics, perhaps?

Line noise.

Nearly right. But even vi has a 127 page manual. I agree it's on all unix machines, so I kept a summary card on it from my Ultrix days.

In 1990, however, I started using Notepad on a Sun and then dxnotepad on Ultrix. But a year later I got a Mac and soon after that BBedit came out. Each of these took 5 minutes to learn, and I've never needed to consult any doccy on any of these. Which is as it should be for any decent tool.

when telnet and ftp became available, I tended to use a DOS PC running wordstar :-)

T'was a sad day when they crowbarred wordstar from me.

Huge wrote: [snip]

It's possible. That used to be a major problem on the M27.

The Drink and Drive signs are set via another network from a separate control office. Normally their display is low priority so any local information would over-ride them. If the local system fails the low priority message appears.

Like most things in IT the systems behind the signs use pointers and stacks and hierarchical rules. So if one layer disappears the layer below pops up.

I've got a new boxed version 6 (I think) in a cupboard somewhere...

Jim K