Mosquito under-25 repellant device

[T i m]

Because (I suspect and as I mentioned previously) it reduces the insurance liability when one of the staff / cleaners tries to sue because they have contracted a smoking related disease. [1]

I agree there could still be 'special' places which were obviously only of interest to smokers (like 'Smoking Clubs') where members of the general non smoking population would not need to be in contact but I still suggest the above para is to do with it.

I'm not sure you could get a member of staff to waive their rights either? "I hereby sign that if I become ill or die from a smoking related disease from working here I (or my family) won't sue the company" ?

All the best

T i m

[1] This is probably folk law (or will be discredited as such) but I heard there was an instance of a smoker who contracted lung cancer who then tried to sue her employer for 'encouraging her to smoke' (because they had proved a 'smoking room' on the premises). This could be a reason why many companies *don't* provide such facilities and further don't allow smoking on their entire site.

[Clot]

It does indeed dissolve in water. Folk with lead pipework are advised to flush the pipe in the morning before drawing off water to fill the kettle. Water companies are adding phosphate at treatment works to reduce the solubility of lead in customers supply pipes.

[dennis]

Elf and safety at work.

An employer is obliged to take care of their staff as are other staff.

[dennis]

a few hundred homes.. Fortunately its a hard water area so unlikely to have much effect.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

You could have a private club where there are no employees - same as some pubs. And you're surely not claiming cigarette smoke is more harmful than other chemicals that employees may have to handle in other businesses?

No matter how people wriggle there is no sense behind banning smoking everywhere that the public *might* have access to - it is merely punishment of smokers. And having accepted that other such laws will follow.

[T i m]

'Private smoking parties' .. have em round your place Dave .. ;-)

I would have thought any 'harmful chemicals' would be covered by the HSA and suitable protective clothing / breathing equipment would be issued? If you were producing any smoke or fumes indoors in any other circumstances than smoking they would be obliged to provide suitable extraction or fume cupboards etc. Lead solder has now been replaced with lead free for the exact same reasons ....

Or social freedom (at last) for the majority? Try and put yourself in our shoes for a second and think about what we (the non smokers) have an issue with. It's the fact that we choose not to have to breathe (or smell) cigarette smoke / fumes, ever, anywhere we happen to go in our everyday lives. Anyone imposing that on us (and from our point of view for no logical reason) is acting 'antisocially' and should be issued with an ASBO? ;-)

Good, because by definition, few stupid rules ever actually get through (or stay).

Just out of interest, have I missed all the Pro Smoking marches? I remember seeing some for Foxhunting and some other similarly bizarre minority interests but not Pro Smoking?

All the best ..

T i m

p.s. What is also nice for me is that if the Missus goes out with her mates for a meal she doesn't come home stinking like an ashtray.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Pubs run by families? Partners?

And decent smoke extraction would be simple to provide in smoking pubs - if they were allowed. It's not exactly rocket science.

Err, yet again you miss the point. If a pub were clearly marked as a smoking one, just why would you want to go there - anymore than one that played music you don't like or showed sports you weren't interested in all the time. Or even a gay pub - assuming you're not gay?

She went to smoking restaurants when the majority have been non smoking for years?

[Mark]

They started off ok, but run out of breath after a few yards ;(

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[T i m]

Well, I guess as long as everyone (and that might need a private ballot as no everyone tells the truth to the 'do you mind' question) then that's fine?

Indeed, and I'm surprised more places didn't do something about it .. unless being 'No Smoking' was actually preferred?

Smoking, 'point' .. lol

Ok, again just for you. My family and I are on a motorcycle camping holiday. In the evening we walk to the only local pub and want a drink and some grub. The chances are we won't mind the music whatever it is and even if we don't like what's on Sky Sports the chances are we won't go back to our tent smelling of it.

Are you chatting me up Dave (can you recommend any good places should I decide to go that way)? ;-)

Did I say 'restaurant' Dave. As an ex smoker she has less of an issue being in smoke than I do (although she still prefers not to). The Pub they go to has a good no-smoking restaurant and is centrally located to all of them. However, sometimes (depending on what way the wind is blowing etc) the smoke stench blows through to the restaurant and I can smell it on her as soon as she comes home. Ironically I can't smell food or drink on her clothes nor diesel / car fumes from the journey. ;-)

All the best ..

T i m

[Weatherlawyer]

I would have though cheap and tinny were the perfect pitches for mosquito coasters.

[dennis]

Just like phone speakers then. ;-)

[ARWadworth]

They should have followed Jimmy Savile's lighter.

Adam

[ARWadworth]

Just like phone speakers.

Listen to a gang/group of teens walking down a steet (they are not all yobs) and they are playing music in the worst possible way by using their mobile phones. They do not know what they are missing.

Adam

[dennis]

That's the trouble with the young.. they are technologically challenged. They have never heard of Bluetooth and certainly don't know about Bluetooth stereo headsets.

They look at me a bit odd when I send full emails from my phone rather than pay to send a stupid text message.

[Matt]

Pure unadulterated bullshit.

[Andy Champ]

I'll admit it's probably coincidence, but it isn't bullshit.

Andy

[Lobster]

It's certainly well documented that exposure to allergens can desensitize people to them - eg kids from homes with pets have less asthma.

David

[Dave]

I had a dog by my side, as a child and I was born with asthma and suffered it till the age of 13, when I learned to ride a bicycle. Now I get hay fever and bronchitis.

Dave