Interesting blog on fracking

Aug 20, 2013 329 Replies

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Don't think it has been posted here before.



No doubt it will be ignored by the greenwash NIMBYs.



Cheers



Dave R


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I note the pre-disposed bias.

Did you include the '29.aspx' that line wrapped?

That's if you miss out the last part of the URL. Copy and paste the whole thing, and it works just fine.

Should people who break the law (to the extend of being arrested) in order to impose their views and therefore demonstrate their contempt for democracy be allowed to remain members of the House of Commons?

Get a decent newsreader and post correctly.

Everything is dangerous, I see no problem with fracking, nuclear, etc, etc.

As opposed to the ones there who break the law (but not to the extent of being arrested) in order to impose their views and therefore demonstrate their contempt for democracy ?

So how come a fellow with qualifications in zoology and in charge of Northern Rock when it went bust is suddenly an expert in fracking?

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Just another ignorant journalist now.

Are these the eco-fascists we are referring to?

Still, the greenwash Nimby proved that David was right by ignoring the information that he didn't want to see.

er no. most of the parliamentary benches in fact..

There are good legal arguments for stating that really important things like the Iraq war decision and indeed the climate change act were in fact in contravention of the rules laid down for parliamentary procedure, and in fact that joining the EU was in fact 'ultra vires', as well.

That makes the governments that pushed them along criminals of one sort or another, and in te case of various EU treaties renders them technically null and void.

That's at the major legislation level.

Then we have insider trading. Anyone who buys up cheap properties in the certain knowledge that relaxing constraints on housing loans will create a massive boom is guilty of insider trading. Bliar comes to mind.

Likewise those with interests, declared or otherwise, who sponsor 'renewable energy' policies. Half the cabinet seems to have a finger in that pie...

That is the problem with 'big state' : if more than half the nations GDP is flowing through government, the money gets spent the way they decide, to favour themselves and people who sponsor them. You dont get to spend it the way YOU want.

What choice do most of us have, when it comes to education, or healthcare. None. There is one monopoly supplier and a few independents who will cost you far more OVER AND ABOVE the taxes you wont get back for not using the state supplied ones size forts all non-choice.

What I wonder would your reaction be if there was only one soft drink you could buy, and you got taxed on the basis you could have it delivered free. But you would have to pay if you wanted pepsi instead

You would scream corruption, monopoly, and unfair.

But as Miliband informs us 'we just don't GET the way things are done, in Europe'

And long may it continue to be that way.

Well obviously it can't be, because otherwise you wouldn't have replied to it.

As I'm not a 'greenwash Nimby' (sic), I take it you're referring to someone else.

As for myself, I have read it. I think I have a more or less open mind on shale gas, but I note the article's pro-shale gas, anti-wind bias.

For example, he moans about the wind turbines on the landscapes he drives through, but is apparently blind to the pylons, which almost certainly outnumber the turbines by hundreds or thousands to one. A turbine is only an eyesore, if you consider it such, I don't really, at the point of installation. Pylons, in contrast, are all over the Highlands & Islands, and are a much greater collective eyesore, yet none of the anti-wind brigade ever complain about them.

From a personal point of view, while I find pylons slightly intrusive, they do tend to blend in somewhat, as they don't move. Wind turbines have bloomin' great spinning bits which shout "I'm here!!!!" to all and sundry. They're a lot more difficult to ignore, and under the right circumstances, can be distracting if you're driving past a farm of them, and keep catching movement out of the corner of your eye..

They are also grey not white so don't stand out against the back ground, vegetation. Pylons are rarely all in a row along the top of ridge as well. You might get one as the line passes over but that'll be it. Nota good idea to have line exposed to the wind and ice...

Pylons don't have the same density as windmills either, one every half mile or so in a line low down. Not one every 1/4 mile on a grid(ish) over many square miles, on the higher ground.

Aye, a static plylon on the horizon doesn't attract attention a whirling wind mill, even when you can't even see the hub, does.

+1

I have good peripheral vision, which makes turbines *very* distracting as I drive past them, especially as I should be using my eyes to look out for traffic, not 'king turbines.

and in some cases green

and a line of pylons in the Highland of Scotland shows how puny are man's works.

Near here, there is a small community wind turbine. On the rare occasions when it is working, the spinning blades can be seen from afar above the tree-line. It is an eyesore, which attracts attention in a way that no fixed pylon does. It has also been moved once, and still is the subject of complaints from the nearby householders.

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