Google seem to be delighted we are leaving the EU?

Feb 21, 2020 Last reply: 6 years ago 54 Replies

Quite.

You don't.

Yes, without a doubt (have you heard some of them ... most of the Flat Worlders come from The States)!

I don't know, do you?

I know I wouldn't (and listening to many people being interviewed around the last GE, few people do (in general). That's partly why I was surprised so many put faith in them delivering the Brexit they thought they were voting for (even we know that was an impossible task in any case etc).

Cheers, T i m

Well there ya go. I don't trust any of them either, so I don't see the Americans as being a bigger threat than any other entity. Your paranoia may differ.

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Yes, trust isn't a definitive thing on it's own, it comes in many different forms and flavours (so yet another non-binary thing).

So, would I trust our Government with my data? No

Would I trust the American (/other) Government equally? No, I would trust them less.

Cheers, T i m

That?s basically what a bidet is, but I wouldn?t like your chances of getting the worst of those with dementia to use it reliably.

Same with a carwash for humans.

Now you understand the need for Brexit.. BEG

[1] Ooops, I can hear you being added to the killfiles as we speak! (Oh no, sorry, that's only if you weren't *Pro* Brexit).

Maybe that's what those who didn't vote Brexit here should start doing, killfiling all those who are fanatical Brexiteers, except maybe those who didn't vote Leave like to hear all the different views?

Anyway, I think the suggestion here was that *if* we were still part of the EU we would have a better chance of legislating the control of our data, especially within the EU, than if we are out?

So we would need to re-join the EU to 'Regain Control'. ;-)

Cheers, T i m

[1] So no, that's no reason whatsoever.

Except by contract ("safe harbour" etc.) which, as I say, is not easily enforceable. But contract is theoretically encorceable, unless negated by some instrument of Pax Americana.

The British government have already said they (or any British firm) willl give your data routinely to secret police, and on request to more conventional law enforcement. What they will probably not do, which the Americans can and will, is sell it to any business in the world no matter how shady. (Except for Iran and North Korea.)

Litigation will do. In 1980 I was visiting a bloke in San Francisco, he had invented a new type of pool cover - and patented it. A large pool cover manufacturer sued him - for what I don't recall, but probably on the grounds he'd copied their patent or whatever. Point is, he couldn't afford the litigation so had to settle. They prolly forced him to license his patent to them for tuppence-ha'penny. That's how it works there. You get law - and plenty of it.

Well, no: but I won't bother to elaborate.

Not even China is in a position to do that. Are you suggesting disabling all Android phones and blocking all Google IPs? I suspect Google is actually more powerful in important ways than the UK government. And we might well be subject to major US retaliation, if only economic, if we attempted to do so.

It's quite hard to see how this is the EU's fault, too.

I see you are deluded.

Oh, the irony of it.

We're going to have to toe the American line more and more after Brexit.

One looming battle is taxing American tech giants such as Facebook and Amazon. The US is fiercly defending the right of their tech companies to pull tricks like "transfer pricing", on the other hand the EU demands the companies pay tax in the country where income is generated. Without EU backing and protection, little Britain is likely to give in to Uncle Sam's demands.

So where does your ISP keep the data it holds for you?

And is your data private?

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Maybe, but it seems to me that if they actually cared at all about legal jurisdiction or UK law, they'd be moving the data and responsibility to the UK, given it's UK data about UK residents that should be handled under UK law.

#Paul

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