I had New bathroom fitted few months back the shower is fitted above the fuse box which is in the hall .I have noticed when I have a shower there's a damp patch around the fuse box.I have had a plumber round who has told me he would have to get to the back of the shower and pull all my beautiful new tiles off .and maybe have to get under the bath and pull tiles off the side panel.And a electrician who has sad he will take my new shower off and put new one on and put a new fuse board on that he has told me it's going to be compulsory he may have to take tiles of to see if it's leaking this is going to cost around £1000 the plumber that did the bathroom said he is to busy to come back and is now avoiding me .the house is 25 years old .I dont know what yo do will it couse a fire .any idea would be helpfull.
Is this a new location for the shower? It was dumb to run water in a location like that to start with.
If the first plumber refuses to come back he should be reported to whatever agency oversees the licenses in your country as that is irresponsible. He may be liable for any costs you incur if it was his fault.
It must be fixed, even if times have to be removed. I can't see it so cannot suggest a better method.
He has to also rule out that it's not water escaping from a shower curtain or door onto the floor and then leaking down. And it could also be an escutheon around one of the handles, etc that is leaking, not the plumbing itself. He should eliminate those possibilities, one at a time, eg direct water using a large hose or something, so that it goes right from shower head to drain, run it awhile, see what happens. Someone suggested a video cam and opening a strategically located hole to take a look while testing would be a good idea. Can probably find a cheap video cam on Ebay, Amazon, etc. It could also be water leaking at tile joints, if that was done improperly, which again can be ruled in or out via some testing.
Regarding the non-responsive plumber, I would send him a demand letter, via registered mail so that he has proof it was mailed and received. Or whatever you have in the UK that is similar. Save proof of phone call records too. In the letter give him a reasonable time to come fix it, eg two weeks and explain that if he does not, then you will get someone else to fix it and bill him for it. If it comes to that, then here in the US you could sue him in small claims court, IDK about UK courts. Take good pictures of it all too.
Regarding the electrician, unless there is evidence the water has ruined the electric panel, I wouldn't be rushing to replace that. If water is making it to the panel, then don't use the shower until it's fixed and if there is no other facility available, shorten that two weeks for the plumber to maybe 5 days.
get under the bath and pull tiles off the side panel.And a electrician who has sad he will take my new shower off and put new one on and put a new fuse board on that he has told me it's going to be compulsory he may have to take tiles of to see if it's leaking this is going to cost around £1000 the plumber that did the bathroom said he is to busy to come back and is now avoiding me .the house is 25 years old .I dont know what yo do will it couse a fire .any idea would be helpfull.
It might be easier to access all of that from the hall if that wall is easier than tile to fix. In the US that would just be drywall and no big deal to replace. If you open up the wall you should be able to find the leak and also assess any mold problems you may have created.
My current problem is that it leaks downstairs only when the tub is being filled. Not when the tub is draining. If it leaks when showering, I haven't checked but probably. (I use another shower.)
So people here say it come be coming out by the faucent stem packing and then running back into the wall. Or a pipe or joint could be leaking.
Definitely. $20 or 30 for a 5- or 6-foot laparascape.
Texting is good because you have a record, if he has a phone number that receives texts (any cell phoen**). but save the texts you've send and if you get a new phone, transfer them to to the new phone. It looks so lame when plaintiffs claim to have texted and they all say the phone was lost or broken or they got a new one.
**This is how Inspector Clousseau spelled it. It's pronounced phuon or phuon.
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Can the fuse box be removed from the wall and spacers or spacers and a non-absorbant board be put in to keep it off the wet spot?
It sounds more like the stem inside the spout is leaking but that and the faucet stems should be visible if you remove the trim bezels or the spout. I would start with the bezels. There isn't much between the valve and the end of the spout to leak. Typically there is either a pipe nipple extending out of the wall into the spout or the spout itself threads into the valve body (the 2 common styles). The valve stem packing is trivial to do if the knobs come off easily. They do make pullers for that. I have had to cut them off tho.
Thanks. What slows me down is that any testing will probably involve more dripping downstairs. I could put a bucket there, but I'm not sure where it should go.
But I'll get to it.
I replaced the washers, and maybe the whole stems about 5 years ago and stopped using the tub 2 or 3 years ago. But I didn't replace the stem packing.
I wonder how many are telling the truth. I've had the same phone for 3 years, can't remember what happened when I did the transfer back then. I didn't have any texts worth saving. I would expect that the typical transfer today should save texts. You'd think texting apps would have the ability to export texts to a text file, but mine doesn't. Maybe other text apps do. That's the nice thing with Android, if you don't like the stock apps you can change most of them to something else.
I'm sure some people lose or break their phone and had none of their texts backed up, and I'm sure most people who buy a new phone don't even know how to copy texts to it. And they all say they didn't expect to sue or get sued, which I'm sure is true most of the time, but some people do know a displute is ongoing and a lawsuit is likely, and I'm sure many or most are lying about there once having had texts (why I said "claim"). The tv judges seem not to care if they're lying. All that matters is that they don't have them, so the reason doesn't matter.
The best all-around utility for Android cell phones is MyPhoneExplorer,
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. I don't have any texts worth saving either, so I haven't tried it but I'm sure it will back up your texts, like it backs up everything else, and it can then save them to a new phone.
It also allows one to send texts, composing them on your PC with a full sized keyboard, though you do have to have your phone on and linked to send the text.
It also makes transferring files back and forth easy, like photos, or if you download an apk on the PC.
It will connect the PC to the phone via cable, bluetooth, or wifi.
It requires a second part for the phone itself. That's at
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This page is interesting too. If you have an adblocker turned on, you get
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with a button for Cryptdonate. Click on that and it's like a foreign world.
You're encouraged during setup to enable Google Account backup. If you do that, I think texts along with other key info will be backed up, but I don't remember what happened years ago with texts when I used it to move to a new phone. I know it did restore apps, contacts, etc., that all came right across to the new phone.
and I'm sure most people who buy a new phone don't even
A new phone comes with instructions on how to easily move what you have from the old phone to the new. AFAIK, using Google Account is just one, I think they may have utilities that will do it for you too. Apple has similar, it's all backed up in the cloud. Hard to imagine that in 2020 it would not include texts.
The "plumber" was likely just a handyman "bodger", not a registered tradesman. Most likely cause of the dampness is not sealing around the pipes where they penetrate the tile/backer. I'd pull the estachions and caulk behind them with a good tile and tub caulk first before doing any extensive/expensive deconstruction and see if that solves the problem. Also seal all the tile grout with a clear tile sealer made for the job.
I'm not an apple person, but after being nudged into the apple world by my hearing aids and "inheriting" i-phones from , first my daughter, then a client, I found updating drom my old SE to my 8 was painless - and updating my wife from the 4 to the SE was just as simple. Previously I was in the Blackberry universe - and even there it was pretty simple. Moving from the 'Berry to the "other fruit phone" was a bit more complicated but I don't think I lost anything.
After reading it is only when "filling the tub" - and NOT using the shower: 90+% chance it is the diveerter or the tub filling spout - the diverter would be my first guess - with water running back into the wall. It can NOT be the pipes if it doesn't leak whenthe water is not running - and particularly if not when the dhower is running (not filling the tub)
Or mabee it is only when there IS water in the tub - which could be a drain issue or a cracked (acrylic) tub - - -
Had one that only leaked with the tub full that was a problem with the seal around the drain - and another that was a cracked tub., Resealing the drain "tailpiece" solved the one - the other needed a tub replacement but was patched with epoxy in the short term (don't know if it was ever replaced) The drain was my daughter's.
This discussion got me interested in what exactly does or does not get backed up by Google on an Android phone. I was also thinking about rooting my phone, which would entail a factory reset, so it would matter. As to texts, I still don't know. I see most sources saying that Google doesn't back texts up. Others say that they do. Others say they do but it's optional or part of something other than the normal backup that happens all the time. So, IDK. But there are apps that will save them if you need them.
As to complete backup of your android phone, it's a big, hot mess. It's very unclear exactly what gets backed up by Google and what does not. Looks like apps get backed up, so you can restore them. Whether that includes data too, IDK. It backs up some settings. I see nothing about it backing up other things, eg documents, files, pictures, videos, etc. There are other separate solutions for that, eg Dropbox, but you would think there would be complete backup options today. I could not find a comprehensive backup app for phones that are not rooted. Without root access, the backups can't backup most app data for example or wifi networks that you have names and PWDs set for. And the ones I looked at just dealt with apps, not with the files, pics, etc. On the other hand, if you have a rooted phone, then there are apps which will essentially make a backup of everything.
I haven't used a restore in a couple years or more. When I did, I remember it did put back the apps, but I don't remember how much more I had to do, like re-entering account names, pwds, etc. It's actually amazing that for such an advanced OS and all the things people have on their phones that backup is so screwed up on Android.
I finally decided not to root my phone. I was most interested in getting rid of the carrier bloatware on it, which you can only do via rooting. But I found a way to easily disable it permanently so that it no longer loads or does anything. It's still there taking up space and it may still get updated from the Playstore, but it won't run or show up as an installed app.
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