GB News

Twisting and turning. Positing some time travelling market research who could get details of thee demographic back to companies *who didn't even know they were advertising on the channel* BEFORE any such market reasearch had been done?

purleease.

And it is clear that no compoany had the chance to do that. Instead they were influenced by a hard left organastion I(are you a member) telling them what it was, and them beleiving it

From that you wildly assume that I am

No your bigotry ghas nothing to do with not liking it and everything to do with prejudging whoi you think those that dom are.

You are the one in this conversation who has remarkably closed views. The world is changing - some for the better and some for the worse. It is refreshing that various 'isms' are now being challenged and hopefully that will continue until such time as genuinely free opportunities are open to all who are skilled enough for the post.

More bigotry. where in that is any 'racial' element ?

I see you ARE a member of that left wing organisation.

So you really don't think that GB News spent a fortune on a TV station without any idea of who its audience would be? That is either incredibly naive or incredibly stupid of you. Its also been clear for some time that GB news sought to be an alternative to the other news stations - their philosophy was also stated by them fairly early on.

Which particular 'hard left organisation' are you referring to here - you have a list of soooo many of them.

So when its announced that their backers are, inter alia,

and its philosophy is also declared you are not capable of making a decision on what its audience is likely to be? What persuaded you to watch it if none of the above apply?

Thank you for agreeing with me on that at least. Its good to know that you can repeat things that others provide for you. I take it you still favour Breitbart as your news source?

All I did was take the evidence of the audience figures. Do you not agree that the figures show the audience to be predominantly older white males?

You are the one who likes to bring Race into this. Where have I said that GB News was a racist TV station?

Please state which 'left wing organisation' you mean. Your list of such organisations is so long that it becomes unbelievable.

It is simple human nature to be racist. Protecting your family against others in the wild. You only have to look at what happens when one country invades another, or colonised it. The native people (that are left) then become second class citizens.

Education and civilization you'd hope would persuade you all should have equal rights.

But there are still large numbers who don't want this. And the likes of GB TV made for them.

Quite. Bill, their target audience, has already said all existing TV news is too 'left wing'. And if you wish to appeal only to the right, the model for this is Fox News. Where any conflicting views are treated as lies or conspiracy.

Further twisting and turning, now you have moved the market surveys from the companies to the station. Ok **suppose* they had, and they then released these to the companies, why would those companies have advertised in the first place?

Then to actually remove advertisings the moment a hard left organisation threatened them?

You cant rewrite the narrative of what actually happened.

Its a matter of public record

Twisting and turning again?

Moving from 'those who watch it as a demographic', to ad hominem attacks against its sponsors. And me. Typical left wing 'cancel culture' in action

And that is why I watch it. It doesn't cancel anyone.

I read breitbart as a news source yes. Its certainly not my main news source.

Neither is Al Jazeera, the BBC or the guardian. Mostly I read the headlines to see what people want me to think about and then go to wherever the source facts are.

No. It shows that the audience is predominantly older people, with a very slight bias towards men. There is no inference of race or ethnic groups anywhere in there.

Its your unconscious racism at work.

Twisting and turning again. You just said it above - that its appeal was to predominantly WHITE men.

Ipso facto its content MUST be racially biassed.

You have proved yourself enough of a left wing racist bigot to now be ignored by any rational poster.

Do your own research

Who of course will want the advertising media to know who the target audeince is and couple that with the *reported* data and you have a picture of who the station sees as its audience - an alternative to those news outlets you dislike.

Perhaps its that the companies themselves thought that their commissioned advertising companies would havemore regard to both the ethos of GB News and the cimmissioniong companies. Perhaps the advertising slots sold by GB news initially were so cheap that it made sense to do so.

Which particular hard left organisation this time? A Capitalist society such as you (and as it happens I) favour gives freedom of choice to do what it wishes (within bounds. You take it further though by assuming that any change of mind is a 'left wing' forced decision.

I'm not trying to.

Interesting - its not a site I had seen before but it does name a large number of *very* big names who are clearly opposed to discrimination. I applaud those companies.

Once again your assumptions are wrong. I'm very happily retired having sold my business a good few years again and put part of the proceeds into a hobby farm. My time is mostly spent managing that, a small investment and property portfolio, travelling between the farm and the city flat and holidays.

And you prove your bigotry by assuming I am employed by a 'left wing organisation'

I think you'll find those are reported facts. I'm sorry they don't suit your closed minded bigotry.

Those are simply fact that I quote. I'm sorry if you don't like facts and prefer your assumptions and prejudices. Such as:

How can I research which organisation is supposed to be employing me when I'm not employed by anyone? However, as a 'rational poster' who will no doubt be ignoring me now I'll say goodbye to you.

That's what the conquered are told to keep them quiet. The conquerors

You judge it without ever having watched it (and seen what proportion of its on-screen staff are black)?

NFN, Normal for Norfolk, is a well known medical acronym

Go on then. Tell us the gap in the market it is looking to fill. It appeals to Bill, who has regularly claimed that there are too many ethnic minorities on the other news progs who he states are given those jobs without being the best choice - so purely on their colour.

And why are you fixated on those in front of the camera? What about the other well paid jobs there?

Whether or not GB News fills it, there is an obvious gap in the TV news market for broad neutrality such as BBC News and ITN used to exhibit up to (at a guess) about 1970.

Neither of those organisations is nowadays politically neutral and their bias in favour of the liberal-left is painfully palpable. This is especially so in the case of ITN's "Channel Four News", whose production costs should all be charged up against the Labour Party's and the Green Party's election budgets.

He must answer for himself, but anyone watching and supporting GB News on that basis would be disappointed.

Don't be so ridiculous. Nobody is "fixated" on anything. But how would I, or you, or anyone else, be able to form a judgement on the ethnic mix of people we - by obvious definition - cannot see?

I expect that Andrew Neil - given his professional stature - is well-remunerated. I have no means of assessing how much anyone else at GB News is paid. Do you?

The only "problem" with non-white presenters on GBnews is the extent to which they disappear into the dark background under the dim lighting.

This must be a constant problem for lighting engineers. But if they shine brighter lights on the black person to try to bring their face into the same range of brightness as the white person adjacent, will they be called racists?

Bill

I'm surprised you've not complained about cricket no longer using whites. A reason being it's difficult for TV to cope with the contrast between that and a dark skin.

Of course I'm sure your wonderful GB news would manage it OK.