Different sort of lighter.... The OP was talking about the type with a wick that use flint spark ignition only, and then stay lit until you close the cap on them. These are quite different from the normal gas lighters.
I discovered that when using a butane stove while camping in winter. I had to share my sleeping bag with the gas bottle if I wanted a hot breakfast. (Hint: propane doesn't suffer from that problem.)
Where do you find these 'cans' from which "a squirt of butane or propane from the can" may be produced? All the propane and butane that I've seen comes in pressurised containers.
Or am I being silly - can you get little cans of propane/butane for filling lighters (which is where we came in).
Yes, cans of lighter gas are butane, and you can squirt liquid butane from them. But this is of little use as a degreasing solvent - yes the butane will dissolve the grease, but it will evaporate very shortly afterwards, leaving the grease behind. A degreasing solvent needs to carry away the grease it has dissolved in order for it to be useful.
Zippo, for example.
It's all that sniffing it to make sure it worked. :-) LOL Join the crowd mate. :-)
Hi Gnuff, I am the OP and, yes, I started by asked about the petrol type of lighter fuel. I guess it would be possible to read the way I wrote: "can of cigarette lighter fuel (the liquid stuff)" as referring to those butane gas aerosol cans because the butane gas in them is stored as a liquid. However my original intention was to ask about petrol lighter fuel.
SO butane wasn't what I meant but I am always looking out for a good solvent for sticky labels and the like. So I was intrigued by recent posts to this thread like these:
However, I must say that when i tried this I found that the butane gas evaporated so quickly that I barely get the chance to use it. Maybe if I could use it then I would be able to wipe any dissolved residue away with a cloth but unfortunately it is all eveoprated in a few seconds and I can't do much with pressurized butane at all.
:-(
No, it's true. :-) LOL
I am the OP and, yup, you are quite right. I have to say though that I was slightly ambiguous and the reader who didn't see "petrol" might have thought of lighter fuel which is a liquid when it is stored (eg butane) rather than one which is a liquid in storage and in usage (eg petrol).
However, anything which does a good job of removing those sticky backed foam pads (or any other awkward self-adhesive items) is always welcome. Surprisingly I found that propanol was rather poor at dissolving this particular adhesive.
Put the container and the item to be cleaned in the freezer and it'll stay liquid for some considerable time in fact.
Butane is liquid at STP
How do you get over the small matter of the boiling point of n-butane being just below 0C ? (Iso-butane boils about 10C lower.)
A puddle of it might sit for some time at STP, but ultimately it will end up as a gas.
That's 0 degrees C isn't it? What's butane's boiling point? It evaporates very fast at room temperature, as you discover when you unscrew an unresealable cartridge from your camping stove!
No it isn't
Bob Mannix
Boils at 273K if I've read my book correctly.
272.7K
Interesting. How do you plan to keep this propane and butane liquid then?
Yup.
Methane Hydrate.
Not methane.
The Natural Philosopher ( snipped-for-privacy@b.c) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :
In a bucket, dear Liza, dear Liza.
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