We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember "sweetheart" saying something like:
That's sniping; live with it. I snipe on every auction because it avoids bidding fever and being at the PC for the finish time and if I don't happen to win an item (by being out-sniped), so what? There's always another one.
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember "sweetheart" saying something like:
Cock. Utter, utter c*ck.
You missed out "whinging" and a few others.
So, FFS, put in a maximum bid of =A3100 and stop whinging.
MB
But you say elsewhere you're willig to pay =A3100? I've got some tat for sale at 10x it's true "value".
MBQ
So does putting in your maximum bid to start with. That's how Ebay works.
MBQ
Depends what you mean by "daft". Low offer with a sob story about being first time buyers, or higher than anyone else beacuse they think they've spotted a bargain development opportunity?
If you get a higher offer from someone else accpet it. if you don't then are you really going to turn away the highest offer?
Has anyone specifically and explicitly told you they are an ordinary buyer? If they have, and have so many transactions then why did you beleive them? Did you question them further?
Do you have incontrovertible proof of a dealer acting dishonestly, or just not playing to your rules? Ebay set the rules, BTW.
How do you know they've given you a genuine price? I'm sure lots of people have been conned by dealers being up front about being dealers.
but you're happy for them to prowl around your house?
MBQ
If everyone picks a maximum and sticks to it, then the timing doesn't matter.
But if you are (or might be) bidding against someone who doesn't decide on a real maximum and gets caught up in bidding fever, there's a chance that if you put in your maximum early on, they'll outbid it, but if you put the same maximum in at the last minute, they won't, they'll just moan about it on Usenet, even though they could have won it if they'd put their real maximum in earlier.
Or if you are bidding against someone who doesn't understand eBay works, and that you are putting in a maximum, not a commitment to pay that price whether there's another close bid or not. That's the difference between sniping and a traditional sealed bid auction.
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember "Man at B&Q" saying something like:
Thereby tipping off the opposition that there's already interest in it. Simple, really.
snipped-for-privacy@chiark.greenend.org.uk (Alan Braggins) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:
Well, it does - because if two people bid the same, the first bid takes precedence.
So what? They don't know how far you are prepared to bid until they make their bid and let the proxy system do it's thing. If they bid over your maximum, then they bid over your maximum. Why would you want to bid more than your maximum, other than heat of the moment bidding fever? Really simple.
MBQ
I'm sure they're hanging on your every word. :^)
It is indeed. There are people around who want something at any cost. So regardless of the maximum you want to spend they can and will top it. The beauty of an auction.
I had some brand new 3 pin Bulgin plugs - the sort once used on amps. Put one on Ebay, and it got into a bidding war. Sold for 45 quid...
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My wife was rather keen on a Woolworth's set of plates (and other items) from the 1950s. She wanted a complete set and spent a lot of time buying items to add to her collection. Presumably someone like "sweetheart" would see her as "a dealer" because they can't imagine why someone would buy several of the same thing.
I am awaiting her post to the newsgroup next week when the plate is delivered and there will no doubt be a problem between the postman and her OH.
If it were an ordinary plate I might agree. The one I am after is classed as a decorative plate. Its one of a set ( different designs - like summer, winter etc) I just want the one, not the four.
This bloke has bought up all the same one ( not the set). Funny, but he is having a bid at the one plate I put a high bid in. He has bid on it three times now - testing where my max is? Yet, there is another plate, no bidders ( identical) which has an auction ending a day later than mine. If he wants just one plate ( but he is evidently buying them all - bar the one I already have now from yesterday, when he didn't seem to be around) he wouldn't be doing that would he?
I don't know whether to up my max or not?
He is also bidding on a clock. ( I know because I looked at it and decided against it simply because of the bids on it). For two pins since it now seems to be him and him alone, I would counter bid him! See how he likes it.
See..... this is precisely what e bay should not generate isn't it?
Indeed. So why are you behaving in that way?
Works for me! I can't see the point in bidding before the last few=20 seconds. It tips your hand to other bidders and alerts them that they=20 might have to bid up - which of course I don't want 'cos it'll cost me=20 more.
As you rightly say, in almost every case, there'll be another one along=20 soon. Except Logitech Trackman Marble+ which someone sold a flood of a=20 few months ago and I wasn't paying attention. They went for about =A315=20 and I wept. We have five here but could do with a couple more. The price=20 on eBay seems to range from around =A330 to a very hopeful =A380 or more.
--=20 Skipweasel - never knowingly understood.
OK, let's work it through.
If I'm willing to pay a fiver for a doohickey and the starting price is a pound and I bid a fiver, then someone may come along and bid 5.50 which is more than I'm willing to pay.
If I'm willing to pay a fiver for a doohickey and the starting price is a pound and I don't bid until the last moment and someone else is playing the same game, then they might bid 1.00 and I might bid 1.01 only then there isn't time for them to slip in another bid and it's mine AND I haven't paid a fiver for it.
There - simple. It works like that all the time for me.
I am not, but if ( IF) I am likely to get sniped again as I did before by this bloke then I am wondering if I should just put in a bid for the clock and take it for the sake of? I wouldn't mind the clock ( its a match for the plate) I can live without it and I am willing to pay what it takes. I doubt he is. As a dealer he wants what he can get cheap ( hence the bid on my 99p + plate and not on the one the day after ( at over £5.00). His plate limit looks to be about a fiver . His clock limit? Most clocks ( three of them) have been around £15.00. So I am guessing thats the limit for him. He couldn't sell it on beyond that.
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