dot matrix printer

I have been looking for a cheap printer to replace the gummed up inkjet my wife used to use before we bought her a laptop. I now get irregular e-mails requesting that such and such letter/recipe/birth/marriage/death etc. attachment should be printed on the office m/c.
I don't leave my PC switched on so networking won't work and she works at the other end of the house so picking up copy is inconvenient.
I confidently expected dot matrix printers to be dirt cheap by now and half promised one as a birthday pressie. 150ukp they must be joking!
For 70ukp I can get an entry level laser inc. usb cable. Is there something I should know?
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Tim Lamb wrote:

Dot matrix is a bit old hat these days, I don't know why you would want one of those! But the cheap HP mono lasers for as you say around 70 quid are good for the price and work well in my experience. If you want something a bit more fancy, if you double the budget you can get a networked colour HP CP1515n laser printer for around £150...
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Tim Lamb wrote:

Wouldn't dream of using anything but a cheap laser - so long as B&W is all you need.
Used to use one at work (an earlier version of the current cheapest one at Dabs, the Samsung ML-2240 Mono Laser Printer) - did thousands of pages without any significant problems.
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To be expected. They are now a low volume, specialist market (used only when one wants multipart output, etc.)

I bought a Samsung for about 85 quid a couple of years ago (reduced from 160). I really bought it because it could do scanning and photocopying too, but occasionally print on it. Probably equivalent now to the basic model you're looking at. Seems fine but consumables are a little expensive...that's the area to research.
What's wrong with a cheapo inkket?
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Laser is now cheaper. They always were at the high end, but the volume at which they become the cheaper option gets lower and lower.
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The other option is what I use. I have two (actually, several but I only use two) HP LaserJet 4M+ machines. 12ppm, networked, PostScript. Each has a large paper tray and a duplexer, and they (apart from the duplexers) cost penuts on eBay. They have required zero maintenance, and even genuine HP toners are quite cheap on eBay. All the major consumable components are part of the toner cartridge.
Yes, a bit big, but fine for me. I have a Xerox DocuPrint C20 (PostScript) for the occasional colour output. And they all work with Windows, OS/2 and FreeBSD.
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Bob Eager wrote:

Blocked nozzles. Smears if new prints are handled before drying - or if old prints get even slightly damp. Slower than laser. More expensive per page. Generally need slightly better paper than lasers.
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The same that's wrong with a cheap laser. Expensive consumables. Lightweight components. Poor paper handling options. Proprietary drivers. Poor quality output.
Very few people will pay the price of a good printer. Nor will they appreciate the difference between a good printer and shite.
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Steve Firth wrote:

I've not had any of those troubles with a cheap laser. Do yourself a favour and avoid inkjets though, too much time wasted on those.
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As I said, "very few people will pay the price of a good printer" add your name to the list of those that wont.

And on "cheap" lasers.
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On Feb 27, 12:01 am, % snipped-for-privacy@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote:

My "inexpensive" £50 Samsung has given faultless service. The only problem is the toner cartridges cost as much as the printer did, but they are no more expensive than many other brands' cartridges.
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Samsung seem to do pretty well in comparative reviews. I had to choose between a Samsung and the HP1018 and chose the HP. I had nothing to go on - at the time (2.5 years ago) I couldn't find good reviews on either, so I mentally tossed a coin and HP won. It works fine on HP toner.
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%steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

You're forgetting the _really_ big drawback of an inkjet. They clog if left unused, which results in the already expensive consumables becoming VERY expensive.
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Assuming the nozzle is in the cartridge, simply remove it from the printer and dip the relevant end into a cup of near boiling water for ten seconds or so.
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On Fri, 27 Feb 2009 09:17:04 +0000, Stephen Howard wrote:

I think this is the case with HP and some Canon's but not Epson's.
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Dave Liquorice wrote:

My experience with an Epson stylus color 1160 is to leave it on all the time. Since I started doing that I've had no blockages at all. I'd say the printer is not used more days than it is and even on a busy day probably less than 30 sheets are printed. When I used to switch it off blockages were frequent with similar usage. I only use the clean button immediately after changing cartridges. And I allow the machine stop out of ink before bothering to change the cartridge. I've no idea why this should happen but I'm very pleased it's so reliable.
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It isn't in Epson's' which is why their ink is cheaper than HP. However when you buy a new HP ink you get a new nozzle etc. which does help. i have thrown away several Epson's as there was no way to unblock them and no repair shop would look at them once they were a few years old, yet they were generally sturdier built and didn't blow your eyeballs off with their colours as sometimes happens in HPs.
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It is possible to unblock Epson nozzles in a sonic bath. Not everyone has access to such a device and TBH very few people can tolerate the noise.
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On Mon, 2 Mar 2009 16:27:08 +0000, Steve Firth wrote:

A "sonic bath" is something other than an ultra sonic cleaner then? Small, low power, ones are available for less than £50 and they make no objectionable noise that I'm aware of. This sort would be fine for nozzle unblocking.
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How would you get the nozzle part of the printer out of said printer and into a bath? I could never figure out how to get the part unattached so i could really clean it/see if it was really blocked.
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