decent leyboard.

Its more complicated than that. Plenty who ring me don?t consider when I might have gone to bed, so I use do no disturb on the smartphone so they don?t wake me. I just say 'hey siri do not disturb' to turn it on. I would like to just say 'hey siri disturb' to turn that off when I wake up, but half the time siri gives me the same description of the heavy metal band Disturbed, Even tho I keep telling the silly cow to turn off do not disturb after she does that,

Not an easy problem to fix for those doing the code with the two words so similar.

And none of siri, alexa or google come even close to recognising the name of the country Ingushetia. Mostly reading it as england bizarrely.

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Ray
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You may find you can actually enable 'Legacy USB support' in BIOS to sort this.

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Adrian Caspersz

I leave my phone in another room, NOT in my bedroom when I go to sleep. It's always solved the problem for me.

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whisky-dave

Translating informal speech into formal written English sounds a reasonable task for AI - I wonder if anyone has done it?

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Roger Hayter

Mine is on do not disturb. It stops random calls, but would still allow family to get through in an emergency (they are all sensible enough to not phone at silly hours except if it was important).

SteveW

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Steve Walker

That works for other devices, but not for the keyboard - I've tried.

I assume that it is so early in the boot process that no USB devices are enabled.

Probably not something they thought too hard about when they expected people to use the PS2 connection.

SteveW

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Steve Walker

An A1243 Apple wired keyboard. The one here has been in daily use for 15 years and still looks and works as new.

Of course, some of the keys are mapped to Mac OS. So amongst the many decisions you need to correct over the years, choosing the right computer moves up the list :-)

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RJH

Nope. Because you need to *understand* the language first. Something we are no closer to now (despite the sales pitch) than we were 35 years ago.

All we have is "clever" keyword matching. Which can look impressive if you're not paying attention.

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Jethro_uk

Modern speech recognition, goes significantly beyond just keyword matching. Its fairly obvious it understands context as well these days, as you see it change previous word matched based on the context as more words are added.

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John Rumm

No it doesn't. It "recognises" words, and runs all sorts of clever algorithms that try to match the construct to other constructs and appear "clever". But it still doesn't *understand* what it is doing.

When I was gatekeeping IT strategy for my last employer, we had a few companies hawking their "AI" solutions to read online reviews and tell us what was being said. But after a few tests, it was clear they weren't "reading" the reviews.

I'll know AI when I see it.

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Jethro_uk

So it's somewhat like a socialist, then?

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The Natural Philosopher

Alas that means you are often stuck with shonky hardware made by apple these days, unless you are prepared to DIY and go the hackintosh route.

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John Rumm

I'd give you expensive hardware - but IME they use quality components properly bolted together.

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RJH

If only... The only difference betrween apple and other PC crap is apple is overpriced crap.

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The Natural Philosopher

We are actually much closer now with the intelligent speakers like alexa, siri and the google home series.

In fact we have a lot more than that now.

Just noticed yesterday that alexa now has multi query intelligence like google first had. Asked her for the time in london and in the next question just the temperature. Got the temperature for london instead of the local temp.

But weirdly none of them have a clue about Ingushetia.

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Ray

Component quality is ok, but their designs are often very poor (yes they look pretty - like a pig with lipstick).

Bad thermal management, very poor moisture ingress protection, crap keyboards on laptops for the last few years. Not to mention soldered in RAM and SSDs. Abysmal repairability, and to cap it all, if it fails early they will blame the customer if at all possible, then offer to sell them a new machine.

They sometimes put in place an extended warranty programs for some of their most egregious bits of sloppy design[1] - but only after enough class action legal cases have been brought.

[1] The macbook butterfly keyboard fiasco for example. They have known for several years they were failing in large numbers, and put in place an extend warranty eventually, and yet still carried on selling new machines with them, and repairing existing machines with the same defective part.
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John Rumm

I thought the point of the imitation game was that you /wouldn't/...

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Robin

Siri, alexa and google must understand to deliver the answer you want or do what you told it to do.

You clearly wouldn?t because its here now and you havent even noticed.

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Ray

Really? I'd have thought the exact opposite, based on owning iMacs and Mac Minis for the past 15 years. The only design problem I've come across is putting the ports round the back, and I find their laptops have limited I/O. But I've just got used to it and rarely find it a problem.

Could you name a manufacturer in a similar price bracket that uses better components - say, screens, RAM, case materials, processors, PSUs, peripherals?

I'd have said class leading. In fact the reason I bought an iMac in the first place. It's virtually silent unless under extreme loads. Same with the Mini - but I use that as a media player so it's not stretched. And I gather the new iMac Pros are phenomenal - bit out of my league though!

very poor moisture ingress protection,

No idea what you mean by that. What do expect from a computer?!

crap

Yes, I've heard that. I did use a MacBook Pro for a couple of years, and found it superb. But I know people didn't like the 'Butterfly' keyboards Apple used for a couple of years. But I wasn't using it sufficiently so sold it - nothing to do with the keyboard. For almost as much as I paid.

But back on topic, the keyboard on this iMac has covered millions of words and looks and works as new.

Not to mention soldered in

Where applicable, yes, agreed. I've never owned a Mac with that - except, possibly the MacBook, not sure. But if you're saying that's the current norm, it's unlikely I'll buy again. CPUs maybe. But RAM and HDs, nope. I'm staggered the new Mac Pros do this - amazed they sell any at all.

Abysmal repairability,

Yep - I'd manage save for the cost of custom parts. But IME they simply rarely go wrong. My current iMac is about 5 years old. This replaced another 27" iMac

and to cap it all, if it fails

I'm not sure where you get that from. I had one iMac DOA, which they swapped in 24 hours from the report. They didn't ask me any questions, in fact. Much less blame me for anything. One friend had a 4 year old iMac with a video glitch. Swapped out for a brand new top spec. No questions.

Is this some research, or a book you've read? I follow the media and a couple of Mac NGs and I've never heard this 'blame-then-sell' thing.

Yes, that does sound poor - I didn't know it was several years.

Overall, I'd say they are expensive to buy, but for TCO ('gross') any Mac I've owned has been excellent value for money. But I accept my experience is, well, my experience. it sounds like you've been bitten. Hard.

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RJH

It is widely recognised that the imitation game is not a good test of synthetic intelligence, AI.

I think it was reasonably claimed to have been passed a few years ago. No one gave a shit.

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Pancho

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