The OP already knows more about the safety regulations than any CAB advisor :-)
And I am going to sent the photos to work to see if the apprentices (that have done a PAT testing course) know more than the OP.
I don't know how many other people would have noticed what the OP spotted. I looked at Graham's photos before reading his post.
And for anyone wishing to find out if a fuse is a counterfeit there is this
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Robin
Interesting, thanks, but short answer is "dunno 'guv". Would you use them if you came across counterfeit stuff?
Longer answer is that on the one hand I can see it's a way to target people in the trade ("The mission is to educate and inform contractors, installers, and specifiers...") rather than consumers.
On the other hand I'm cynical that it's (also) a way for Voltimum to build its business worldwide by blurring the line between commercial and public service, in the process gathering info. to send promotional emails, carry out market research etc. The more so as they are economical about just how they "notify the relevant state regulator". I'd be more impressed if they could report eg National Trading Standards as partners rather than just pray in aid the EIC Charter (which is a venture with Trading Standards UK but AFAICS not with Voltimum).
On the third hand, I see they do include[1] the advice "Alternatively, you can report it to Trading Standards via the Citizens Advice website
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or call the Citizens Advice consumer helpline on
08454 04 05 06" :)
[1] at
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Mind you that page'd be better if they gave the up to date number "03454
04 05 06) and linked direct the the page for TS reports But perhaps they gave the website to an apprentice.
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John Rumm
Seems ok to me.
A metal earth pin should work reliably as an earth in all circumstances. With a sleeve it won't some of the time. A plastic one does not ever need to work as an earth connection.
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tabbypurr
With a plastic sleeve it won't any of the time, as the E plug pin connection is deliberately made near the surface of the socket.
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John Rumm
That's not necessarily always the case. There are plenty of socket designs where the earth connection is a fairly deep "socket" which while reaching to (or close to) the faceplate, also has contactable metalwork deeper in the socket.
Yes, but not exclusively at the surface.
So while you can't rely on a partially sleeved pin working at all, neither can you reply on it not.
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John Rumm
Not actually that uncommon for submersible pumps in general.
Indeed.
*if* the flex is genuine (and that is a big if), then it probably is adequately fault protected by a 13A fuse (assuming that is also to spec). Overload protection won't be required here.
So yes, a 3A fuse would be more appropriate, but should be safe with a
13A assuming everything is built to the expected specification.
Could equally be ali ;-)
Something ending in a 7 or 8 - i.e. intended for continuous immersion. (7 if its designed for a depth of no more than 1m)
So looking at that lot, the plug is suspect, as is the fuse. The other bits are "ok" if they match the claims made by their marking. (which I would not be surprised if that turned out to not be the case)
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