Charity

less money = less work.

NT

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tabbypurr
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anything can be done on a small scale with volunteers. Scale it up 100x and you don't get the volunteers.

NT

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tabbypurr

and more to the point, rightly ought to be (funded out of taxation)

tim

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tim.....

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I've had charity clothing collection bags delivered here for years. How much do the charities receive from those? How many are legit?

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Jonno

+1

I do give spasmodically to charities such as Oxfam and Wateraid, as being well established charities via whom I can reasonably expect some of my money to be channelled to the projects that they say they carry out.

I refuse point blank to be stopped by chuggers, refuse ALL callers at the door, bin all circulars without opening them, and also try to refuse "Gift Aid" wherever it's attempted to be harvested (*every* bugger is at it now!), on the principle that I pay my taxes to support my country's infrastructure, not to be siphoned off by the clever t**ts who advise and/or run commercial charities.

Most of my charity giving these days goes to the local hospice, or similar local charities in towns that I visit.

John

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Another John

The RNLI is the seventh largest charity in the UK.

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Nightjar

The debatable bit is whether the charities actually get more money by employing collection companies or by doing the collections themselves. The collection companies are only legally required to hand over 10% of what they take to the charities.

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Nightjar

Why can't the fund raising manager of the charity do the same?

Except that they are only legally bound to pass on £2k of that £20k.

The main advantage of the collection companies is that they guarantee the charity a minimum income, which makes budgeting much easier.

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Nightjar

And all UK charities is far larger than just the 7th.

In the end its really down to the potential donor to fund out what they're funding, and decide accordingly.

NT

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tabbypurr

That's not hard to answer

They're legally obliged to hand over whatever their contract with the charity says. It usually amounts to far more than 10%.

NT

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tabbypurr

If they're in a position to do so, they do. Many aren't. Its not exactly a trivial task to get collecting teams out.

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tabbypurr

On 06/06/15 15:16, Nightjar The debatable bit is whether the charities actually get more money by

That should be absolutely outlawed. In fact all chugging should be.

It's got beyond saturation - my walk between Charing X station and Drury lane will typically, no matter what route I take, pass:

1) About 2-3 dozen tramps (as in actually sitting on the pavement) - about 1/3 -1/2 are winos actively engaged in drinking;

2) 5+ Big Issue vendors some of who really try to get in your face;

3) 5-10 chuggers under the banner of 2-3 charities;

4) 0-5 volunteer charity collectors with tins or buckets - usually military related

5) 4-10 people trying to shove crap in my face, mostly the JWs.

I'm not a mean person but it just pissed me off having people metaphorically poking me every day. I ignore the lot and occasionally give a quid or two to a tramp who's not obviously drinking.

I usually give a few quid to anyone in 4) as they turn up about twice a week at the station and are often students doing a drive for some medical charity.

If you lost 2,3 and 5 I'd be a lot better disposed to the rest.

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Tim Watts

Indeed.

If the charities could easily raise more money, why aren't they doing it?

Reply to
Adrian

When does the law, rather than any commercial contract they may enter into with a charity, require them to give more, or perhaps you mean less?

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Nightjar

I never suggested it was easy, but, as I mentioned in another post, the main advantage of the collection companies is that they guarantee the charities a minimum income, which makes budgeting much simpler.

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Nightjar

They can be sued for breach of contract if they fail to do so, which is not quite the same as being bound by statute.

It may do if the charity has enough clout to negotiate a contract that gives better than the legal minimum. However, the fund raisers for small charities that I have spoken to have never been able to get offered better than the legal minimum.

You seem remarkably ready to defend the collection companies. Do you work for one?

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Nightjar

When did selling the Big Issue become a career choice?

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ARW

Your claim was that you couldn't get volunteers except when working on a small scale. Were that true then it should affect the RNLI, but it doesn't.

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Nightjar

In message , Jonno writes

On top of how many are legit, how many of the bags for charity x are collected on behalf of charity x, rather than by a group doing the rounds and stealing the bags before the official collectors pick them up.

Adrian

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Adrian

Because some of them don?t have the same ready access to volunteers.

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John Chance

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