Thanks for the suggestions. While it might be a good plan to buy an older 'quality' tool - the killer on most mail-order deals is the carriage (to Ireland).
CPC seem to only want 8 euro to get one of their drills over here - so that seems like a good deal.
Looks like the CPC Clarkes jobbie Many thanks Adrian
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Steve Walker
I recently bought same-ish one from MachineMart for similar light use -
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it's fine, but throw away the crappy eyeguard upon unpacking.
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The Medway Handyman
I've got one as well, can't grumble about it either.
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Richard Russell
There was no need to in my case. The guard broke and fell off.
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Dave Plowman (News)
All these cheap pillar drills seem to come from the same maker - just cosmetic differences. So look at B&Q, Wicks etc to save on carriage costs.
My only real complaint about mine bought from B&Q was the maximum distance from table to chuck - not enough for a 2 x 2" lump of wood held in a vice and a 1/2" drill. A bit like a compound mitre bench circular saw - I want one which can chop 12" planks. But we all have our own bench marks for this sort of thing. And that pillar drill was a million times better than a drill mounted in a stand.
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Dave Plowman (News)
I'd check it has enough clearance between table and drill end for this task. Mine hasn't if the wood is thick and you're using a vice.
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Adrian
Hmmm - there's a thought..... (ordered the Clarke drill last night !)
168mm apparently - might be OK - though I see they also quote a chuck-to-base distance of 260mm (presumably you can swing the table out of the way and work directly on the base..?)
The wood in question is the triangular base for a stained-glass lamp - only about 25 - 30mm thick, and I've tended to do the drilling without the aid of a vice......
Anyway - all ordered - so we'll see what the courier brings. He'll be delighted - apparently it weights 19kg. Just hope they don't do what the did once in Suffolk - shipped me a 100m (wooden) reel of heavy-duty coaxial cable - loose-packed with an assortment of dil ICs and other discrete components. Quite a mess, after the cable reel had bounced around inside the box for a day or so.....
....we'll see.
Thanks Adrian
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Adrian
Yebbut - if you're out in the wilds of south-west Ireland (as we are) it can be a long way to your friendly local B&Q.
In the end, CPC are charging me 15 euro (or about 10 of your earth pounds) to deliver the drill press, plus a laminator, plus some odds & ends that I can't get over here - so I'm not unhappy with that... Saves trailing all the way to Cork or Killarney, which would cost more in petrol anyway....
That's what I needed to hear.
Wonder what's the smallest drill bit that you can grip in the chuck? Some of the diamond drills I use have very fine diameter shanks - so I've bought a 'fine' chuck from CPC as well - and hope to be able to put that in the 'main' chuck if necessary..
Many thanks Adrian
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Dave Liquorice
Thinking about how the work is held when (not if) the drill binds is a Good Idea(tm). Even if it's just that it rotates and hits the column, if that is the case start with the work against the column. B-)
The other thing that might be a problem is the quill centre to column face distance but of you've been using a B&D drill stand without trouble that's probably not going to be an issue.
I wouldn't put any money on it. I had a packet a ground glass in with one of my deliveries that also contained a drill vice. The ground glass should have been 5 20A fuses... Hope the laminator survives. B-)
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Adrian
Yes - all understood
No - that won't be a problem The timber in question is a piece of (usually) ash - cut to an equilateral triangle about 4.5" per side. Needs a small hole near each corner and then the big 9.5mm one in the centre.
It's common in the stainaed glass / fused glass world to buy 'scrap' glass (as in other peoples' offcuts). Once had some scrap come from the USA - postie stood there with a parcel which sounded like broken glass ('cos it was) and an expression on his face that said 'he's not going to like this'.....
..was much relieved when i explained that's how it should sound !
I'll let you know whether the drill press gets damaged by the laminator - or the other way round
Adrian
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Dan Smithers
I'm looking for a bench drill that takes Morse Taper bits (I forget exactly which) as well as a normal chuck. Most of the ones I've seen advertised are quite expensive. Are there cheap ones? Are there some not advertised as MT that actually have it?
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John Rumm
Most of them seem to have a morse taper chuck fitting, but as I mentioned in another post, my Ferm drill has a morse taper quill, but it is the wrong sex for use with a drill bit - i.e. the chuck has the female bit. So you will have to check carefully before buying.
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Geo
Ah - good - far too many people add the electricity to the water instead of the other way round...
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Adrian
Actually - the 'water & electrickery' thing is the least of my problems right now.
CPC's order status page seems fundamentally broken - so it didn't warn me that there was some danger of the package being delivered yesterday.....
...so UPS tried to deliver, and left one of their famous little notes....
..promising delivery today.
Well - that didn't happen - so phoned UPS, who got the depot to phone me back. Apparently CPC, in their infinite wisdom, popped the 19kg pillar drill in a standard carboard shipping box - so by the time it arrived with me the inner box with the drill in it had broken through the outer box. So they took it back to the depot to perform a 'damage assessment' - which meant that it missed being sent out today - so it'll be coming out again on Monday.
So far, nobody knows what may have happened to the laminator, perspex car sun-visors, electrolytic capacitors, SLA battery & charger and laminating pouches that were also (allegedly!) in the same box......
Anybody care to place bets on which items survived ?? - I'll let you know who's closest to the mark when the remains of the parcel arrive on Monday....
Bloody amateurs !
Adrian
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Grimly Curmudgeon
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember Adrian saying something like:
I bought the Aldi bench drill a couple of years ago, not expecting it to be up to much, but I was surprised. It's agricultural, sure, but quite useful. When I bought mine there was a stack of them remaining in store, and that was a good week after they'd been out on the floor - I reckon most people who wanted one had their need satisfied the previous time they'd been available.
Since then, I've seen it pop up a couple of times on the Aldi site and Lidl have had it too. If you get a CPC version, it would be worth your while grabbing an Aldi one as a spare.
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Grimly Curmudgeon
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember Adrian saying something like:
Bless'em, warehouse monkeys aren't employed for their brainpower. I had a Northern Tools compresser arrive in a single skin cardboard box. As you can imagine it took a bit of a battering in transit and the plastic air cowl was busted. Useless bastards never replaced it.
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