Broadband with added fibre?

Nope. I went with Zen on their office-pro jobbie and now get 38Mbps down and

8.5Mbps up with 8 static IP addresses for the same price as 1 as I really do have a requirement for a static IP address.

This was a big leap in speed from 3Mbps down and about 600kbps up on ADSL+

Their "fibre active" would serve the average home-user at 50GB

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little bit more expensive than some out there but it does the trick for me. Haven't even tried their mail or news services as news is via eternal-september (free) and mail goes through my website.

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Tim Streater

it looks like IPV6 will result in MORE NAT to handle the switchover, as many IPV6 addresses will have to 'shelter' behind a single IPV4 one to maintain backwards compatibilty..

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The Natural Philosopher

The real answer is for ISPs to implement it on their networks. All vendors of big routers made that possible years ago. As I already posted, it's now down to the large backbone ISPs and then your domestic ISPs (those supplying you with your broadband connectivity) to do the same. Note that this can all run over the existing physical infrastructure, it just needs to be enabled.

Your desktop computer should be able to do it too. At work, someone one day was experimenting with an IPv6 DHCP server, which caused my Mac to start using IPv6 preferentially instead of IPv4. As many of the hosts I was contacting were on the research network I didn't notice at first, until I needed a commercial website. No response, of course. As it happened, I had a RIPE webapge up; at the time RIPE showed you your IP address on its homepage and there it was: my IPv6 address. So I disabled v6 in my Mac and normal service was restored.

We may well all need new routers at home, though. Or dual-stack ones at any rate. There may be some new kit needed at the exchanges too. I'd suggest if anyone os switching ISPs, to bug them about their IPv6 plans when you do so.

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Tim Streater

Try Plusnet. I've been on their FTTC trial for a couple of months now and have had nothing but an excellent experience. Downloads always in the mid-to-late 20Mbps and often peaking in the mid 30s. Uploads in the teens.

Installation took less than 30 minutes with an extension being run (at my request) from the master-socket-with-a-new-faceplate next to the front door to a new extension socket on the wall in my study where both modem and router reside.

Oh, and the call centre, should you need it, is in Sheffield with a bunch of people who actually want to help.

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Mmm. It sounds like we will end up running dual stacks..all the way down the line.

I am pretty sure all my Linuxes will do that, but XP? Yuk. And will the router?

And how on earth will DNS work?

It's gonna be a freakin nightmare, like the early days of the net..

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The Natural Philosopher

Aye, the change over is going to be messy with all manner of v6 v4 gateways and/or address translators (if you can for a given destination) required. Until cheap ADSL modems/routers with native IPv6 hit the consumer market the mass market ISPs aren't going to put too much effort into getting IPv6 to work.

Yes, NAT has it's problems but for the vast majority of users they never come across them.

"If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

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Dave Liquorice

The last blocks have already been assigned to regional registries. Happened a couple of weeks ago.

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Huge

router reside.

Plusnet want to help?

Funny, when I was with them, they wanted to kick everyone off. And they did

- 2000 customers with 24. hours notice.

I would not touch that bunch of arse muncher scum with a 20' pole!

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Tim Watts

My experience, and that of my family, with three accounts between us at three different addresses, is of an absolutely excellent ISP. Judging by the awards they've won, our experiences would seem to be more typical.

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F

Judging by his aggressive style if I were an ISP and he was 2000 customers, I'd do exactly the same.

One learns to recognise the breed, they wamt the moon fr sixpence. In the end it was 'return the product to us and we will refund...' usually followed by the 'well no, I want to keep it but you have to...' cut short by our silent mutterings of 'well **** off then. It is what it is. Take it or leave it.'

I do a bit of customer support for a company that makes models kits. The number of customers who just plain LIE to us, is amazing.

There are those who fess up 'look my cat pounced on part Q8 and smashed it could you possibly..i'll pay' and of cose se send it out free. Who wouldnt?

Its the ones who come in and say 'the lower left hand corner of the plan is missing'...what? How can it be missing? its a squaree of paper sir, it might have the left missing or the bottom missing if it was on the wrong sized paper, but not even OUR packers could possibly miss the fact that it was torn across a corner, or printed at 45 degrees..'

Or they are missing parts on sheets for which they claim they have the other parts on that sheet..'It was never in the box' Impossible! You lost it or broke it. Why not say so?'

We realised in the end its all about ego. It's not about getting a certain result at minimal cost, it's about not being WRONG. The lie is to turn it from an understandable accident into YOUR FAULT.and the more it was HIS FAULT, the more the lies come out, and the more aggressive the stance taken,.

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The Natural Philosopher

The Natural Philosopher ( snipped-for-privacy@invalid.invalid) wibbled on Thursday 17 February 2011 18:05:

I'm only aggressive when I've been wronged, which is far better than taking like a sheep like so many seem prepared to do.

I was with Force9, with whom I was very happy.

The package was an "Always On" "Unlimited" Home Highway ISDN. Plusnet took over, then later, abrupty cut off 1000 "high use" customers with 24 hours warning.

They followed suit shortly afterwards with a further 1000 customers.

This is not the way to behave when the service was advertised in the way it was being used. The correct way would have been to introduce quotas with options to change plan or top up.

I was right royally pissed off by having to find new hosting in such a short space of time. Went with Demon who were good, later Andrews and Arnold.

I am always reasonable with the first mistake, unless it is clearly not a mistake - then I let rip.

Plusnet may be "decent" now, but I am happy to bring up their previous form.

Personally, as I say, once bitten, twice shy - I would not touch them again and I would caution against anyone else doing so. There are plenty of ISP who have long term excellent reputations (Zen, A&A for example).

If the fact that I rail aggressively against suppliers who fail to provide the service they claim, then I'm sorry of that offends you.

Cheers

Tim

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Tim Watts

Tim did:

As in the subject of the second sentance "phones".

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Dave Liquorice

I was working at Sun's Bagshot office in 2000 when Solaris 8 came out (which was the first release which included full IPv6 "out of the box", as opposed to the IPv6 add-on support for Solaris 7).

We converted the site to IPv6 and it ran that way until the site closed in 2004. It was an excellent test bed, and did find a few issues in the early days, which was the object of the excersise.

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Andrew Gabriel

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