Are these rivets?

Aug 23, 2009 20 Replies

Along with the material used to construct a container that I own, which many helpful chaps on this group have already assisted me with, I'm trying to source some pins/rivets and related tools similar to these:



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've trawled around looking for something similar and I've found plenty of pop rivets that will achieve the desired result however, I need something with the same flush style (no hole through the rivet), and they need to be brass, steel or another material that can be given an authentic/depreciated finish. So far the most usable thing I've encountered are furniture pins but these aren't really suitable for my project. Can anyone suggest where I might find such a product or at least what I should be looking for aside from rivets?


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They're 'bifurcate rivets'. Try a 'google' for clear pictures.

Use a hammer and something like a cold chisel used on its side to set them.

Cic.

Brilliant! Both of your examples look good so far, thanks very much.

Isn't 'Bifurcate' a great word :-)

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It sounds rude without actually being so; it might have been borrowed from the late 'Father Ted'.

Cic.

As others have said, you need bifurcated rivets similar to these:

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they're like mine, they come in assorted lengths and the tin contains a wire 'handle' to hold each rivet while you are tapping it into the material. [I've got a couple of tins which look exactly like these, which I inherited from my father - one of which he had when I was a kid, so they're several decades old!]

If joining (say) two pieces of leather, you tap the rivet through both pieces into a piece of soft wood underneath. Then you turn it over and remove the wood, and spread the legs of the rivet. The easiest way is to tap a bit of round bar of an appropriate diameter down on the ends of the legs, so as to start them spreading, and then finish off with a hammer. If desired, you can slide a metal washer over the rivet before spreading the legs, to give extra strength.

Cheers Roger. They're always interested to know what I get up to in the basement at work ...... 'I'm bifurcating'. Hehe, it is very Craggyesque.

Can we use the picture on the wiki?

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And don't forget to get the washers for the other side.

Dave

They rejoice under the name of bifurcated rivets. Farsands on google.

The ones on the photo look like they've been "set" by a machine, (your next problem).

Derek

Yeah I did think they looked machined. This isn't such a big deal though, it justs means the job will take a bit lobger.

'Can we use the picture on the wiki?

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Sure you can, do what you like with it.

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supply craft fixings, both solid and split rivets mainly for leather work.

Hope this helps.

dedics

Or, on the Isle of Man, 'trifurcate' (can be even more fun).

As in, "I did trifurcate, but she was already taken"?

That needs the present participle.

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Saw short copper nails recently; diameter prob. a few mm. Such nails could be cut shorter and used as rivets by peening over the dead end? If necessary a suitable washer could be fitted over the unseen end before riveting? Perhaps a copper nail and brass washer? BTW when repairing garden tools such as spades/shovels/rakes etc. have used cut off four inch steel nail as rivets through the repaired fastening of wood handle to metal portion. Just hit it hard enough with a heavy hammer!

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That sort of rivet doesn't need to be hit *hard* - it just needs a lot of glancing blows with a ball-pein hammer - radially from the centre outwards - in order to spread the end.

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