I have just been tossing the rags into the trash, but I keep seeing warnings
about spontaneous combustion. Is that a real threat? Is there a better way
than putting them in a bucket of water, like the warning say?
I have about a quart of old solvent that I don't know what to do with. I
can't put it down the drain, in the trash, or dump it outside. What do I do
with it? I suppose the proper thing is to take it to the county waste
disposal facility that is open 2 hours a year at secret times, but I am
looking for something more practical.
the threat for rags is very real. I lay mine out to "dry" before disposing
of them and will soak them in water.
As far as the old solvent goes, my local firestation takes random hazardous
wastes in small quantities. You might check with them. Granted, the
reactor water from my home Mr. Fusion doesn't fly, they accept different
solvents and paints.
I'm a career firefighter and this does happen. We always have several
fires during the summer from people staining their fence and then leaving
the rags in a big pile next to their fence. Opps. The biggest thing to
avoid is putting the rags in a confine space, this increases the probabilty
of a fire starting. Leave them set out and dry out or soak them in water.
You'd better believe it is! Happened to my grandfather.
Don't know about better. When I have a rag or a wad of steel wool soaked in
something extremely flammable, I throw it in the grill and set it on fire.
Better to burn it in a controlled way and get it over with than to have to
worry about it. Probably not the most environmentally friendly option, but
much safer than some of the stupid ways I played with fire when I was a
Dunno... Put it in the shed with the 32 kitty litter jugs full of used
motor oil you still have because you can't figure out which two hours the
secret facility is open? :)
Poor man's charcoal starter fluid?
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On a side note, here in CT anyone who sells new motor oil is required
to take back old stuff. None of the stores in my area even ask for a
receipt, so I can go anywhere. Ask around, and you may find that
motor oil is very easy to properly dispose of.
On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 11:29:21 GMT, B a r r y B u r k e J r .
As ANOTHER side note...
When you go to those quick lube places for an oil change...and they
put in oil that does not come out of a can...ask them if they use NEW,
Have a nice week...
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity!
You don't have to ask if you change your own oil. <G>
The only vehicle I've ever paid to have the oil changed in was my '96
Nissan King Cab, with the 2.4 four banger. The underhood layout was
so discombobulated that it was simply impossible to remove the filter
without coating yourself in oil. The filter needed to be passed over
a cross member, or the fender lining needed to be removed. Since I
use full synthetic oil, the oil going into that truck always came from
quart bottles, not a gun. The Nissan was the only vehicle I've had
that I didn't drive into the ground. I simply hated that truck.
Even though oil changes are relatively cheap from a dealer, quickie
lube, etc... I like to give everything a once over while I'm there.
I look for leaks, check the belts and hoses, battery connections, wire
insulation, etc... All of these tasks are usually part of a
commercial oil change, but in my experience, simply pencil whipped by
the oil changer. Both of my current vehicles, a '99 Jeep Wrangler
Sport , and an '01 Subaru Outback, are laid out well enough that I can
do each in under 20 minutes. That includes the seven grease fittings
on the Jeep.
I use Mobil 1 and the best filters I can get, unlike the paid guys.
My vehicles are usually driven to the junkyard, with several hundred
thousand miles on them.
Let them dry on a clothesline or spread out on the ground or a
concrete floor. Then toss.
Re-use it. I have a 4-litre (gallon, Keith) container labelled "Used
Varsol". Any newly used mineral spirit gets poured in it. The gunk
settles to the bottom. I use it whenever it is not critical that
clean solvent be used (e.g first pass on cleaning a brush, or any goop
that needs to be cleaned off.) Just pour it our carefully. I have yet
to fill up the container.
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Depending on the solvent level in the rags take a little care when
laying them out on the concrete floor. If that concrete floor contains
a gas hot water heater or other source of ignition.
I usually hang them outside in the back yard until the solvent
evaporates and then toss them in the trash.
Just had a guy pretty much blow himself up this past Winter in my
area...painting in the basement with no ventilation.
He made it...but he went from Caucasian to Negro in a big hurry! lol
Have a nice week...
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity!
In NYC, where they have restrictions on everything you can imagine,
the sanitation instructs us to absorb the solvent with cat litter or
saw dust. After that we can put it in a bag and throw it in the
regular trash. Rags the same thing, and empty paint or solvent cans
should be left open and put in metal recycling.
Mineral spirits won't spontaneously combust.
Drying oils certainly will (in the right conditions). Anything that
has an exothermic curing reaction could potentially do this. But
simple solvents won't.
There is a hazard with flammable solvents, of them either being set
off by a tiny ignition source, or them acting as an accelerant to
something else. The common practice of "spread them out flat on the
floor" is reasonable advice for oil rags, but a worse practice for
solvents than throwing them in the trash.
Be careful of solvent vapours too. If you thrown these into a sealed
bin, let the vapours fill it, then open the lid, you could get a nasty
surprise if there's an ignition source nearby.
Personally I have a steel bin for all finishing rags, and I don't wad
them up before discarding. If they do choose to combust in there, it's
of a construction, position and cleanliness that a fire will be
contained safely. I discard (or burn) them normally, after a few
Die Gotterspammerung - Junkmail of the Gods
Andy, everything you said, and I'll add this: this summer I had a stain
soaked rag that I knew might combust, so I rinsed it out with mineral
spirits, wrung it out, and laid it on top of our plastic recycling
container outside the shop. A couple hours later it was in the sun, and
the heat of the rag melted a 3" hole in the container which was full of
papers. Yikes! Damn near started my own house fire with that one! I
guess not enough of the oils from the stain got flushed from the rag.
Now I spread oil soaked rags out on a rock bed, in the shade.
Andy Dingley wrote:
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